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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
 Posted - 27/06/2013 : 14:41:54
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Hi all, so I just decided to pop in to a pet shop near where I work, more out of curiosity and a desire to see some animals than anything else. I recognised as soon as I went in that the condition of the animals was mediocre at best so I wasn't impressed but I decided to have a nose around anyway. I wasn't expecting them to have snakes but upstairs they had a pair of what seemed to be (rather skinny) adult corns sharing a viv. One was clearly an amel but the other... well I have no idea, and that's what this thread's about.
I didn't have the presence of mind to take a photo at the time, but I can go back tomorrow and get one if necessary because I'm really curious to find out what it was. It was a rather pale yellowish colour but the weird thing was it seemed to have a green tinge, and I've never heard of a greenish morph before. I didn't get a look at its belly except that it seemed to be slightly paler but its bag had a sort of rounded zigzag pattern of darker dots... Sorry I know this is an awful description!
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you guys told me it wasn't even a corn; it could have been a hybrid or something else entirely for all I know - the viv wasn't labelled in any way and I'm only assuming because the other snake in the viv was definitely an amel corn.
Any help identifying it would be great - will try to get pics tomorrow |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 14:43:29
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| *its back had a zigzag pattern, not bag, it didn't have a handbag lol |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 15:07:59
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OK... Erm XD I can only think of one pale green corn which is the Green Spot Snow but will go searching. In the mean time - http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/e_o_obsoleta_and_e_o_quadrivittata_intergrade/horry_county/ ? Random I know but you said green-ish yellow with dark spots and a a zigzag pattern and for some reason I thought of that so thought I'd ask. Will go searching for green-ish corns now lol.
Another thing I thought of, Hypomelanistic Yellow Rat Snake? I am just guessing here lol. A picture would be helpful but that's what I gto from the description. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
Edited by - AcidicAngel on 27/06/2013 15:16:18 |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 15:50:13
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Hiya, thanks very much for your help!
It was a little darker than the green spot snow you mentioned, and more yellowy, and it didn't have the 'saddle' markings on its back as far as I could see, though I guess it could have been a morph with an altered back pattern on top of being a green spot snow. It definitely wasn't the snake you linked; the markings were much less pronounced. The hypomelanistic rat snake does look a little more promising; it had a few more markings than the ones google search showed me but I still think it could have been that...
Just seems strange that a random little high street pet shop would have something like any of those; wonder where they got it from :P
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'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 16:23:33
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Originally posted by Coal
Hiya, thanks very much for your help!
It was a little darker than the green spot snow you mentioned, and more yellowy, and it didn't have the 'saddle' markings on its back as far as I could see, though I guess it could have been a morph with an altered back pattern on top of being a green spot snow. It definitely wasn't the snake you linked; the markings were much less pronounced. The hypomelanistic rat snake does look a little more promising; it had a few more markings than the ones google search showed me but I still think it could have been that...
Just seems strange that a random little high street pet shop would have something like any of those; wonder where they got it from :P
Well Green Spot Snows are Selectively Bred aren't they so they could have randomly popped up in a Snow clutch lol. It could have been a Zigzag Green Spot Snow but I'm not sure if they even exist let alone how rare they'd be? |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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SilverWings
Yearling
United Kingdom
740 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 16:31:08
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| Aztec bubblegum? o.O |
2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman
1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron
1.0 Green Anoles; Doug
1.0 Greyhound; Lee |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 17:08:16
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Originally posted by SilverWings
Aztec bubblegum? o.O
Bubblegums are more pink and green than yellow and green  |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 17:16:08
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
quote:
Originally posted by SilverWings
Aztec bubblegum? o.O
Bubblegums are more pink and green than yellow and green
Yeah it was definitely darker and more yellowish than the bubblegums I've seen online, though thanks a lot for the suggestion Silver :) |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 18:07:31
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| My abbey is a green spot snow/bubblegum snow corn. So could be similar to her :) |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 21:40:29
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| We need a picture of this please. |
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2013 : 22:25:01
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| pictures of the petshop snake, or my abbey? :L |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2013 : 09:43:45
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| I will try to get pics today and out them up this evening :) |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2013 : 19:03:58
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Okay so Pictures!
Just a warning, these are terrible. They're taken with my phone camera and the little bugger was lying write up against the wooden border at the front of the viv. so the angles are all... no. Anyway, hopefully they'll help a little:
His (her? I have no idea) adorable little face (ignore the fella' at the back):
And his back (couldn't get a ventral shot, sorry!):
So any ideas chaps? Would really appreciate it if someone could identify this mysterious little guy (not that I'm tempted or anything...) |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
Edited by - Coal on 28/06/2013 19:04:53 |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2013 : 19:35:30
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Could it possibly be a Hypomelanistic Brooks King Snake or something similar? Lampropeltis Getula Brooksi.
Just thought of something else it could be! A Hypo Speckled King Snake! Lampropeltis Getula Holbrooki. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
Edited by - AcidicAngel on 28/06/2013 19:45:57 |
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2013 : 21:19:11
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| Doesnt look like any corn ive seen, i think its another snake species. Morph however i dont know. |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 28/06/2013 : 22:59:39
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quote:
Originally posted by eeji
definitely not a corn, theres not much to go on from the pics so my best guess is some species of Pituophis (gopher/pine/bull)?
Definitely not a Gopher, Pine or Bull snake as the head shape and patterns are wrong. I still think it's either a Speckled or a Brooks King Snake. Just looking at head shape |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2013 : 07:58:00
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| Looks very bull like to me x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:36:17
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| Definitely not a corn lol!! I also thought a pit of some kind from that head shot, could be king though... Have you actually asked the shopkeeper? Would probably be a lot easier! |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:54:38
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Thanks for your replies everyone <3
I wasn't sure it was a corn either, just because I'd never heard of a morph like it, but now that I think about it it's head shape was a little odd, it was quite blocky but narrower at the base than most corns; it looked more sleek.
And I did ask the shop keeper; they insist it's a corn... :/ |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:56:37
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Looks like a king snake of some sort to me, too, but difficult to say from pics.
If it is, I certainly wouldn't be happy keeping it in with a corn snake, even though the corn looks big enough not to be eaten... |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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