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| Lozzy |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:18:42
So was having a look (dribble ) on Ians morph guide and noticed that the Ultramel anery on there has a bluey coloured eye so looked at Orion and his is mostly black?
Does this mean he isn't and Ultramel Anery?
Here is a picture but i can get a better one if needed:
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| eeji |
Posted - 19/02/2013 : 18:15:05
i'd be tempted to use homozygous amel proven NOT homo or het hypo. This will prevent any confusion of "is it a hypo or an ultramel?". Any hypo looking hatchies will be definitely ultramel which means yours is ultramel anery, if you get all normals then yours is definitely ghost |
| Moppet |
Posted - 18/02/2013 : 21:23:12
His eyes do look quite ghostish. Either way, he is a stunning snake  |
| Treddah |
Posted - 18/02/2013 : 20:32:50
I bought a corn a couple of weeks ago, told she was a ghost motley, but later came to the conclusion with help from this site she's ultrmel anery. Now I've taken some pics and you can really see the blue. Using my iPhone too.
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| Lozzy |
Posted - 27/01/2013 : 19:46:13
Thanks Dan, ye i've been looking at loads of ghosts and they all have very similar eyes to him... |
| Dancross0 |
Posted - 27/01/2013 : 08:32:52
Ghost eye, looks very similar...
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| Lozzy |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 19:28:11
That's a good idea Isodael will have to see if anyone wants my stud muffin when he is ready lol! or pray my OH comes round lol.
Thanks Dan i will keep that in mind when he is old enough i really would like to find out what he is 
Thanks Sue I am leaning towards him being a ghost because there really isn't any blue in his eyes |
| sue2012 |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 18:43:55
very nice snake and has the same colouring as my ghost boy with the only dif being that the black around the saddles on yours is a bit thicker ..... what ever he turns out to be he is stunning |
| Dancross0 |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 14:42:54
Best female to use would be a ghost het amel. You should get ghosts if Orion is a ghost, or snows, anerys and ultramel anerys if he is an Ultramel anery. |
| Isoldael |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 09:23:49
Maybe you can find someone who's interested in using Orion for their female? You won't be bothered with the eggs then and still learn about his genes, and someone might be very happy with the opportunity :) |
| Lozzy |
Posted - 24/01/2013 : 22:36:31
Oh brilliant thanks eeji! I even joined your forum and asked hoping to catch you. lol
Hmm well my OH has said absolutely no to breeding which is a shame, maybe he will change his mind i've got 2 years until he is old enough anyway lol what would you suggest as a good female morph to find this out?
Thanks again! |
| eeji |
Posted - 24/01/2013 : 21:52:13
its a tough call, either ultramel anery or ghost. I think the only way to know 100% is test breeding. |
| Figs |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:52:31
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Originally posted by Razee
Lozzy, I thought snake's pupils with the Ultra in them start of quite red in hatchlings, then turn deep red wine colour, and end up almost black, or black in adults. If you look at pictures of gold dust ( ultramel + caramel), the adults have very dark / black pupils. Did Orion have dark red pupils as a hatchling? Thing is, if you bought him as ultramel anery, he probably is that.
Hope eeji will get back to you, he'll know, anyway.
Whatever Orion is, he's very pretty, I love the dark saddle borders, and the nice solid colour of the saddles.
Adding more of mine to the mix lol
This is my Mew, she is an '09 ultramel anery (for sure haha!)
Even as an adult on my crappy phone pics you can see he has red and blue eyes; they havent darkened at all as she's grown.
To compare this is my '09 normal Goonie - she does have black eyes
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| Lozzy |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:38:58
Figs i don't know what his parents are i bought him from a reptile shop that a very experienced friend of mine worked at and she was emailing the breeder trying to find out for me as i wanted to know if he had any hets but he never got back to her :S
Razee:
Hmm that's something to take into consideration he is around 18ish months now and unfortunately i bought him at around 7 months but im 95% sure that his pupils have always been black, i have no reason to doubt my friend as she is very knowledgeable but from the pictures it's an easy mistake to make and if he was sold to them as a ultramel anery they had no reason to doubt it :S
But thank you i know im biased but i really do think he is a bit of a stunner but shh don't tell Star lol! |
| Razee |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:29:39
Lozzy, I thought snake's pupils with the Ultra in them start of quite red in hatchlings, then turn deep red wine colour, and end up almost black, or black in adults. If you look at pictures of gold dust ( ultramel + caramel), the adults have very dark / black pupils. Did Orion have dark red pupils as a hatchling? Thing is, if you bought him as ultramel anery, he probably is that.
Hope eeji will get back to you, he'll know, anyway.
Whatever Orion is, he's very pretty, I love the dark saddle borders, and the nice solid colour of the saddles. |
| Lozzy |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:28:07
Right just taken a few more pictures, hopefully to get a clearer answer:
Eye:
Belly:
Body shots:
Any help more than welcome!! |
| Figs |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:03:20
Cruising on Ians Vivarium he looks nice and pastely to me!
What were his parents?
I *think* ghost is more or less the non-hybrid version of ultramel anery since amel and ultra share the same locus(?) |
| Lozzy |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:53:20
Maybe a pastel ghost? [:s] |
| Lozzy |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:50:21
Oooh figs now you have me wandering again just had a look at the ghosts and i think you could be right, his eyes aren't blue at all!?
eeji i need you lol!
Think im going to have to take some better pictures now! |
| Figs |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:41:14
My ultramel aneries all have blue & red eyes - babies, big one, stripes and normal patterns
These piccies of Inky and Vimto show it nicely:
 
I thought the eyes was one of the big things that identified an ultramel anery - maybe Orion is a pretty pretty ghost? |
| Lozzy |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:40:44
Thanks Scaly thought it was just me over thinking it |
