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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
 Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:18:42
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So was having a look (dribble ) on Ians morph guide and noticed that the Ultramel anery on there has a bluey coloured eye so looked at Orion and his is mostly black?
Does this mean he isn't and Ultramel Anery?
Here is a picture but i can get a better one if needed:
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0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:20:23
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| I've just had a look and to me it looks like a match |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:40:44
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Thanks Scaly thought it was just me over thinking it  |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:41:14
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My ultramel aneries all have blue & red eyes - babies, big one, stripes and normal patterns
These piccies of Inky and Vimto show it nicely:
 
I thought the eyes was one of the big things that identified an ultramel anery - maybe Orion is a pretty pretty ghost?  |
Edited by - Figs on 23/01/2013 16:50:31 |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:50:21
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Oooh figs now you have me wandering again just had a look at the ghosts and i think you could be right, his eyes aren't blue at all!?
eeji i need you lol!
Think im going to have to take some better pictures now! |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 16:53:20
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| Maybe a pastel ghost? [:s] |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:03:20
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Cruising on Ians Vivarium he looks nice and pastely to me!
What were his parents?
I *think* ghost is more or less the non-hybrid version of ultramel anery since amel and ultra share the same locus(?) |
Edited by - Figs on 23/01/2013 17:04:13 |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 17:28:07
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Right just taken a few more pictures, hopefully to get a clearer answer:
Eye:
Belly:
Body shots:
Any help more than welcome!! |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:29:39
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Lozzy, I thought snake's pupils with the Ultra in them start of quite red in hatchlings, then turn deep red wine colour, and end up almost black, or black in adults. If you look at pictures of gold dust ( ultramel + caramel), the adults have very dark / black pupils. Did Orion have dark red pupils as a hatchling? Thing is, if you bought him as ultramel anery, he probably is that.
Hope eeji will get back to you, he'll know, anyway.
Whatever Orion is, he's very pretty, I love the dark saddle borders, and the nice solid colour of the saddles. |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:38:58
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Figs i don't know what his parents are i bought him from a reptile shop that a very experienced friend of mine worked at and she was emailing the breeder trying to find out for me as i wanted to know if he had any hets but he never got back to her :S
Razee:
Hmm that's something to take into consideration he is around 18ish months now and unfortunately i bought him at around 7 months but im 95% sure that his pupils have always been black, i have no reason to doubt my friend as she is very knowledgeable but from the pictures it's an easy mistake to make and if he was sold to them as a ultramel anery they had no reason to doubt it :S
But thank you i know im biased but i really do think he is a bit of a stunner but shh don't tell Star lol! |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2013 : 18:52:31
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Originally posted by Razee
Lozzy, I thought snake's pupils with the Ultra in them start of quite red in hatchlings, then turn deep red wine colour, and end up almost black, or black in adults. If you look at pictures of gold dust ( ultramel + caramel), the adults have very dark / black pupils. Did Orion have dark red pupils as a hatchling? Thing is, if you bought him as ultramel anery, he probably is that.
Hope eeji will get back to you, he'll know, anyway.
Whatever Orion is, he's very pretty, I love the dark saddle borders, and the nice solid colour of the saddles.
Adding more of mine to the mix lol
This is my Mew, she is an '09 ultramel anery (for sure haha!)
Even as an adult on my crappy phone pics you can see he has red and blue eyes; they havent darkened at all as she's grown.
To compare this is my '09 normal Goonie - she does have black eyes
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2013 : 22:36:31
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Oh brilliant thanks eeji! I even joined your forum and asked hoping to catch you. lol
Hmm well my OH has said absolutely no to breeding which is a shame, maybe he will change his mind i've got 2 years until he is old enough anyway lol what would you suggest as a good female morph to find this out?
Thanks again! |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Isoldael
Yearling
Netherlands
999 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 09:23:49
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| Maybe you can find someone who's interested in using Orion for their female? You won't be bothered with the eggs then and still learn about his genes, and someone might be very happy with the opportunity :) |
1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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Dancross0
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1315 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 14:42:54
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| Best female to use would be a ghost het amel. You should get ghosts if Orion is a ghost, or snows, anerys and ultramel anerys if he is an Ultramel anery. |
Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel
Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley
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sue2012
Hatchling
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 18:43:55
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| very nice snake and has the same colouring as my ghost boy with the only dif being that the black around the saddles on yours is a bit thicker ..... what ever he turns out to be he is stunning |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 19:28:11
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That's a good idea Isodael will have to see if anyone wants my stud muffin when he is ready lol! or pray my OH comes round lol.
Thanks Dan i will keep that in mind when he is old enough i really would like to find out what he is
Thanks Sue I am leaning towards him being a ghost because there really isn't any blue in his eyes |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Dancross0
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1315 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2013 : 08:32:52
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Ghost eye, looks very similar...
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Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel
Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 27/01/2013 : 19:46:13
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| Thanks Dan, ye i've been looking at loads of ghosts and they all have very similar eyes to him... |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Treddah
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 18/02/2013 : 20:32:50
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I bought a corn a couple of weeks ago, told she was a ghost motley, but later came to the conclusion with help from this site she's ultrmel anery. Now I've taken some pics and you can really see the blue. Using my iPhone too.
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0.1.0 ultramel anery - Molly
0.1.0 Staffy x Something -Mitsy
0.1.0 Staffy - Bonnie
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 18/02/2013 : 21:23:12
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| His eyes do look quite ghostish. Either way, he is a stunning snake |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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Slight doubt on Orion
