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| AcidicAngel |
Posted - 16/01/2013 : 22:28:22
So, as title says, I would like to know what heat mats you all use  I personally only use Prorep. I had a bad experience with a Exo Terra one before and haven't had any problems with prorep so mine are all prorep.
What are yours? |
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| Sta~ple |
Posted - 21/01/2013 : 18:51:50
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Originally posted by rockroyal
but surly if a mat is on a stat and the probe is in the correct position any problems with the heat mat over heating just would not happen ???
It does but only to an extent, electrical problems can still happen with mats and stats. If you buy a cheap shoddy heatmat from a nameless brand or a random brand from Fleabay/China they aren't going to be as well made. Also, the printed mat with the black stripes are thought to have more faults than the other because of how the printing work, specially if it's a cheap mat.
I only use Habistat as its the only one I have ever used. I also have a back-up heatmat incase something goes wrong, tiny but good enough :D
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
The heat mat is between 2 pieces of Polystyrene as I was told that if my corns were the kind that like to move substrate(which they are) then I would be best putting the heat mat under the viv between 2 sheets of Poly to prevent fire. I have now been told that this could actually worsen the situation...
Yes it is more of a fire hazard. There is nowhere for heat to escape that way when it is in a sandwhich of poly, a good insulator and wood, which is heavy. Bad advise happens, I didn't have a stat for 8 years, very bad, I should ahve done more research but it happens, so long as people are willing to learn and take advise and act upon it. :D
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Originally posted by Donnie
As she doesn't have the money for a stat then it will probably take her a while to save up for the second viv but it is not the end of the world, lots of people co-habit without any issues and even if they do breed she can just freeze the eggs so will not need lots of hatchie boxes, more mats and stats etc.
Hopefully she will get things sorted quickly and keep on listening to the good advice she is being given on here
If you don't have money cohabbing is a def no-no, A second set-up for £70 is going to be way cheaper than any vet bills for the majority of people. |
| AcidicAngel |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 22:22:47
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Originally posted by Georgina
Fair doos I will look out for them when you put them up. One good thing about snakes is being able to leave them for a couple if day. Providing they get fresh water they wouldn't know any different
Well, I trust my mum to change the waters but not to feed them as I have pinkies in the freezer for a friend(she forgot to take them home last time) and my mum would probably use them lol. |
| Georgina |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 22:16:51
Fair doos I will look out for them when you put them up. One good thing about snakes is being able to leave them for a couple if day. Providing they get fresh water they wouldn't know any different |
| AcidicAngel |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 22:13:55
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Originally posted by Georgina
Cool, I'm glad all is getting sorted. Would be great to see some slimline pics of the two x
Will get some when I finally get home XD A weekend at the partners turned into more than a week because of snow lol. I'm just glad I fed them before I came down so that even if I'm here for 3 weeks they'll be all good.
I may have some but they'll be from before Christmas and it's only recently(2 weeks a go) that they started to look a little triangular. |
| Georgina |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:46:30
Cool, I'm glad all is getting sorted. Would be great to see some slimline pics of the two x |
| AcidicAngel |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:39:57
Well that escalated quickly... XD
I am getting the viv custom made by a friend(4ftx2ftx2ft) and it's going to cost £95 so 7 weeks of saving and I have the second viv. Until I can get a second stat I'll have to run both heat mats off one stat. Don't want to but it's that or they stay together longer than actually needed. Once I have the second stat I'll have them both running off separate stats. I am trying my absolute hardest and I'm sorry I can't fix it all straight away. I was told that I never needed a stat, no guard on a heat bulb(no longer have a heat bulb, LED strip) and that if my corns liked to move the substrate(which they do) I would be better putting the mat under the viv between 2 sheets of poly which I did and that keeps the viv at a nice temp(30C max) but I can clearly see now that despite being a reptile "specialist" they know nothing. Worryingly they keep all their reps(including a breeding pair of BCI) the exact same way as they told me to keep mine.
Also, the corns are at around about 650-700G each now. And they are starting to look a little thin so are now on 1 large every 2 weeks. They are starting to triangle in the back area. |
| Donnie |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:28:51
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Originally posted by Georgina
I think everyone is taking everything I'm saying the wrong. I may not put pleasantries in between every word but I do not mean it offensively just plainly. No offence e was meant.
Mine was not a response having a go at you or directed specifically to you so sorry if it came over that way and I completely agree with the advice you have given in your other posts (as I usually do ). |
| serena_08 |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:12:54
I didn't think you we're being harsh at all, I think now (in my opinion that is lol) that enough has been said! We have all told her what is best, hopefully she will be all sorted soon :D |
| Georgina |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:10:07
I think everyone is taking everything I'm saying the wrong. I may not put pleasantries in between every word but I do not mean it offensively just plainly. No offence e was meant. |
| Donnie |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:01:58
She is listening to what people are saying to her and trying to rectify the things she is doing in error due to pet shops giving her bad advice. We all know that there is a lot of bad advice given out by some pet shops and it is perfectly normal for people to trust them on the advice they give. It may not be getting sorted as quick as we would like but looking at her profile she is 15 so will probably not have access to cash as and when us that are working will have or people who are more fortunate and she has stated that she is saving for a second viv so she can split up her co-habiting pair as advised by members on here. As she doesn't have the money for a stat then it will probably take her a while to save up for the second viv but it is not the end of the world, lots of people co-habit without any issues and even if they do breed she can just freeze the eggs so will not need lots of hatchie boxes, more mats and stats etc.
Hopefully she will get things sorted quickly and keep on listening to the good advice she is being given on here |
| serena_08 |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 19:53:15
I think she gets the message now Georgina :) everyone has been given wrong advice at some point and now she's been put straight we should leave it there :D |
| Georgina |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 19:35:17
But no spare mat or stat for off spring? I'm sorry if I'm coming across brash but its frustrating to see people not taking proper precautions. The short time your snakes have been on a 'diet' it's hard to believe they are down to correc weights as it has taken people on here years to slim their corns down. You must continuously read how we all bark on about stats? |
| AcidicAngel |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 18:13:03
Firstly, both snakes are over 5ft and are no longer obese. They are now a healthy weight. Donnie has sent me a spare stat Hissyfit but if you are sure it would be really helpful for when I have the second viv?
The heat mat is between 2 pieces of Polystyrene as I was told that if my corns were the kind that like to move substrate(which they are) then I would be best putting the heat mat under the viv between 2 sheets of Poly to prevent fire. I have now been told that this could actually worsen the situation...
Georgina, the female isn't gravid. I have worked that out because the last time they locked was November last year and they haven't done since. She also hasn't changed her behaviour or anything. I have spare Bug Boxes for offspring but obviously I cannot fit a 5ft corn into a bug box.
They have plenty of food to last them until I can get them some more, AKA 20 weeks worth as I buy in bulk and they are on 1 large mouse every 2-3 weeks. |
| Georgina |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 11:19:17
When people sat they have no stat. We take it at face value, most people habit been told. But it is very frustrating when people ingnore advice which is life saving to you and your snakes. You are firstly co having obese snakes, which you are now separating which is the best thing to do. But if you have no money how are you going to house any offspring, feed them, take them to a vet if needed? I would personally seperate into two rubs on the dongle mat and buy a stat. |
| Hissyfit |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 11:15:23
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
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I've just replied on the other topic, I currently can't afford a stat as I need to buy a new viv to separate the 2 corns I currently have due to not being told to do so by the rep shop near me. They cohab fine but they are male and female.
I have a spare stat that's just back from being repaired, so you're welcome to it if you like? |
| rockroyal |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 10:55:11
i agree your heat mat really needs to be on a stat AND please remove the heat mat from under your viv that is a fire waiting to happen.
you should buy a stat before buying another viv. |
| Red123 |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 07:29:00
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
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Originally posted by Red123
You are risking your snakes life and possibly your own using a mat underneath the wooden viv without a stat. It should not be underneath a wooden viv to start with but should be inside the wooden viv on the floor and MUST be used with an appropriate thermostat and digital thermometer
I've just replied on the other topic, I currently can't afford a stat as I need to buy a new viv to separate the 2 corns I currently have due to not being told to do so by the rep shop near me. They cohab fine but they are male and female.
Well you are going to need to buy two stats really, (you could use one but not ideal) if you are going to be using two vivs. The fact that you are using a heat mat underneath a wooden viv is very dangerous. Your best option would be to get two RUBS or other brand tubs and put a corn in each then place the tubs so that they are both siting with some of the tub on top the heat mat with a stat attached to the heat mat. That way both corns can safely share the heat mat and the stat when it arrives . How old are these corns by the way? |
| paulie78 |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 00:24:32
All of mine are Ultratherm though ive used pro rep in the past and had no issues but ive found using the ultratherm mats with the habsitats the on/off stats may as well be pulse stats as the temps rarely budge so ive stuck with them |
| AcidicAngel |
Posted - 17/01/2013 : 22:32:36
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Originally posted by Red123
You are risking your snakes life and possibly your own using a mat underneath the wooden viv without a stat. It should not be underneath a wooden viv to start with but should be inside the wooden viv on the floor and MUST be used with an appropriate thermostat and digital thermometer
I've just replied on the other topic, I currently can't afford a stat as I need to buy a new viv to separate the 2 corns I currently have due to not being told to do so by the rep shop near me. They cohab fine but they are male and female. |
| Red123 |
Posted - 17/01/2013 : 21:07:15
You are risking your snakes life and possibly your own using a mat underneath the wooden viv without a stat. It should not be underneath a wooden viv to start with but should be inside the wooden viv on the floor and MUST be used with an appropriate thermostat and digital thermometer |
