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| Red123 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 09:33:27
Is Patrick a ghost corn? I have had comments from a friend that he resembles a rat snake that they used to own. They say this because of his underbelly colouring and his eyes. His belly is white at the top of his body and then gets patches of dark colouring half way down becoming more and more the further down you go. His eyes are a greyish blue colour. I havent got any close ups of him at the moment as he can be temperamental. I thought he was a ghost corn because he has slight yellowing down his sides, didn't think rat snakes have this.
Having looked at some pics on google images I can see some resemblence to rat snake but then corns are related to rat snakes!! |
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| Red123 |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 18:52:19
Thanks for that Mike, now I just need to work out which bit is which and to try and start counting! :) |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 16:57:08
I stole this from another forum.
Cornsnakes, Pantherophis guttatus
Ventrals - 203-240
Subcaudals - 47-76
Dorsals - 20-23
Dorals Blotches - 25-38
Tail & Dorsal Blotches - 34-47
Width of Dorsal blotches - 13-19
Length of Dorsal Blotch - 5-7
Great Plains Ratsnake, Pantherophis emoryi
Ventrals - 197-236
Subcaudals - 58-83
Dorsals - 18-21
Dorals Blotches - More than 44
Tail & Dorsal Blotches - 48-65
Width of Dorsal blotches - 9-15
Length of Dorsal Blotch - 2.5-5.5
I think you will be in the middle, or towards great plains. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 16:54:56
sorry, not been on for a while. different species of rats have differing head scale counts, off the top of my head i dont know what they are, 23 rings a bell, but i dont know if thats corn or not corn. i will speak to a mate who has a better idea. |
| Red123 |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 09:01:56
As above  |
| Red123 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 09:24:16
Can anyone explain the head scale count? Can it be done using a previous shed? (hasn't shed for nearly 11 weeks  so i'm keeping my fingers crossed anyday soon). |
| Red123 |
Posted - 01/01/2011 : 16:21:32
Mikerichards what do you mean by a head scale count? Does a corn have a different amount of scales on its head to a rat snake? If so what number of scales is what and is there a certain area you count from and to? Or have I just made myself look a right idoit. I have to say I have never seen a rat snake up close and personal. Patrick is totaly different to my other corns in temperament and the way he acts and feels when I am brave enought to get him out. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 23:10:26
looks very great plains also. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 23:07:12
A cornsnake is not like a rat snake, it IS a ratsnake! it looks a little like a cross to me. the only real way to tell is a head scale count. |
| eeji |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 18:53:16
if he grows past 6' then he's half grey rat! :D |
| Red123 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 16:00:36
Unfortunately I can not find anything out about his family tree as his previous owner is/was not at all helpful or truthful. |
| heatseeker872591 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 15:51:11
looks like a corn to me but corns are part of the rat snake family and can easily breed with other rat snakes such as the blak/grey ratsnake, and the great plains rat snake. youll find if you was able to trace your corns family tree theres a high probability that theres one of those rat snakes in the blood line, and i have seen some very very bigger than average corn snakes in pet shops in the past and i believe that is the big rat snake species genetics coming out in em |
| Red123 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 15:36:28
So can I take it that he is definitely a ghost corn then eeji? |
| eeji |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 12:51:57
he's definitely not a grey ratsnake, he has a cornsnakes head pattern and pattern round the eyes. A grey rat also wouldn't have all the yellow. |
| Red123 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:50:42
photos
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| stotty01 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:39:04
save it and upload to photo bucket :) |
| Red123 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:33:43
You can see his head clearly in a post by his previous owner but i don't know how to put a link to it or even if thats possible. |
| stotty01 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:27:22
corn and rat snakes are part of the same family. If you get a better picture of its head we can help as they have different scales alignments |
| Red123 |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 09:39:36
There is an old post post on here from previous owner with some nice pics but don't know how I can show this post?
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