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| joetheimpaler |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 09:24:14
 im getting my first snake next week and ive got all of the equipment set up and ready except for a stat because my mum wont get me one because the pet shop owner said you dont need one but i know you do need one and i cant afford to buy one myself because im only 13 and everythings a big disaster... anyway can you please reply to this post to get through to my mum and prove a point, thank you in advance,
joetheimpaler
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| BurnedAtTheStake |
Posted - 22/08/2010 : 10:58:43
Well, hi, Josh, good morning, sorry to leave you dangling ... (OOPS - sorry, I'll rephrase that!)
Errm, where was I ... Ah yes, sorry to hear about the magic marker. You could always pretend it was St Patrick's day, I suppose...
Exit Bats, still cackling .... |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 22/08/2010 : 00:15:29
Hmmm in hindsight that was a bad idea. Especially with permanent marker *facepalms* |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 22/08/2010 : 00:12:23
That's it! I have my green sharpie now! |
| BurnedAtTheStake |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:48:21
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Originally posted by josh9961
How dare you BATS I have a good mind to draw an angry face on my comedic element just to express my disapproval 
LOL!!!!! (Falls apart just picturing it!)
(Raucous feminist laughter ensues!) |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:42:06
How dare you BATS I have a good mind to draw an angry face on my comedic element just to express my disapproval |
| BurnedAtTheStake |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:34:20
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
quote:
Originally posted by josh9961
Oh and dangly bits? I typed four asterisks to allow for readers to insert their own :P I feel insulted! Haha
That was me.
I assumed it was the shorter 4 lettered word for gentlemans danglies.
After seeing your comment, and Gmac's I thought I'd remove the stars and add a bit of comedic element to it, to show that no offence was taken.
That's the first time I've heard of the male genitalia being called comedic element.
(Though as a woman I've often thought it ....)
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| Kehhlyr |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:30:36
quote:
Originally posted by josh9961
Oh and dangly bits? I typed four asterisks to allow for readers to insert their own :P I feel insulted! Haha
That was me.
I assumed it was the shorter 4 lettered word for gentlemans danglies.
After seeing your comment, and Gmac's I thought I'd remove the stars and add a bit of comedic element to it, to show that no offence was taken.
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| josh9961 |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 21:12:21
Oh and dangly bits? I typed four asterisks to allow for readers to insert their own :P I feel insulted! Haha |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 21:04:24
*Facepalm* |
| gmac |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 20:58:04
nice one Josh, but corns dont really need a nightime temp drop. |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 20:56:49
Update: stat is installed and set up :) with a timer to turn it down at night |
| Stacii |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 20:44:55
i know your mum probably expects the shop to know best but i just wanted to say, just because your snake LOOKS ok in the plastic viv with no stat doesnt mean they are
my first snake died because of exsessive regurgitation caused by the heatmat being too warm (i too was a complete noob) and i had no stat.
she was fine when i brought her home and my "reptile specialist" (later found out to be money grabbing beeeeps) had said i had everything id need,( faunarium, aspen, water bowl & heatmat) so off i went and for the first few weeks she was fine but then she was regurging every meal and not drinking, at one point her water dish (metal) which was in the COLD end burnt me when i was doing water changes.
please think of your snake as others have said if the mat feels AT ALL warm to you then your snake will be BURNING but not necessarily visibly burning.
please dont let anything like the pictures above or my story happen to you.
i know we are all here to learn but when advice is given and you ignore it then people will be really reluctant to help when you have any further problems.
S xx |
| joetheimpaler |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 09:10:47
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Originally posted by josh9961
What rep shop do you use Joe? Cos I know one who don't use stats for their rubs, but their temps are always perfect and their hatchies all feed beautifully.
its a little one in gisborough called jaspers pets |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 09:07:54
There are circumstances that can cause a mat to overheat, lack of air supply, ie being completely covered, I saw an experiment a while ago on rf.uk, the smallest mat reached over 200 degrees, and that was in a normal setup, just with the mat covered, there is plenty of evidence about that shows some really quite unpleasant burns on snakes, and in fact, there is one case that the mat caught fire, and then burnt down a purpose made reptile enclosure in someones garden, not only did they lose the whole building, but also something like 12k worth of snakes, a couple survived, but will be permanently scarred from melted plastic.
For the sake of 30 quid, would you prefer some almighty vets bills? Potentially the loss of the animal, and some severe grief from forum people??
Why take the risk??
I never used to use stats, I was the same as you, then I learnt.
Now I have 12 stats (some twins), I even have 4 spares just incase.
Get a stat, the chance is not worth it. And whilst you are researching, research thermal blocking, that'll open your eyes! |
| Kehhlyr |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 01:44:38
I took the photos from the link that Gmac showed on the previous page.
That mat was a fully functioning mat (and still is in use), yet when unstat'd can become dangerously high temperatured.
Has anyone actually ever read the literature that comes with a mat???
/ninja edit
Shall save some time.
Clicky on the pic will bring you to a supersized version of the pic, what you're looking for is the yellow square right in the middle that has blue highlighted text inside.
I highlighted that text for a reason, it specifically says: "With species that have particular requirements....."
Can anyone tell me what the particular requirement is for cornsnakes???
What about Kingsnakes??
2 totally different temperatures are required for 2 apparently similar species.
Hence why it's possible to have 2 identical mats running in 2 identical vivs off one stat when it's only corns housed.
A corn and a king in identical vivs with identical mats would require individual stats, because the particular requirements that those species of snake need in terms of heat is different. |
| mikeyd_26 |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:26:14
well all i can say is 99.9 percent of members will say a stat IS ESSENTIAL that many people can't be wrong. I'm only saying this thru concern and mean no offence |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:20:14
I mean they're all doing fine but I'd rather not risk it if there was a power surge or sonething |
| gmac |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:19:34
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Originally posted by josh9961
Gmac sorry for being a self righteous gentlemens dangly bit. To the rep shop! (tomorrow)
no need for apologies, cool you going to sort it |
| josh9961 |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:17:41
Gmac sorry for being a self righteous gentlemens dangly bit. To the rep shop! (tomorrow) |
| gmac |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:14:05
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Originally posted by josh9961
I check my temps every time I walk past my rubs and I've never gotten a temp over 31degreesC. I don't see how these mats can reach 100 degrees, when they don't even rise far past 30
obviously you havent looked at the link i posted above, you need a stat end off, it really is that simple. |
