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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/06/2010 : 15:35:58
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I have a late 07 or early 08 Male Amel, I really want to pair him with a female, the female I've got lined up will be ready to breed next season, but.. she is bigger than him ( not by much but still bigger).
I want to try and breed them next season but am worried that my boy is to small.
I NEED SOME ADVICE. ( constructive advice )
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 15:53:23
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I was just worried I keek reading all these horror stories online, and thought I better ask, not only for my peace of mind but the snakes too.
Many thanks |
Edited by - HannaH on 06/06/2010 23:22:43 |
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Mouse
Yearling
United Kingdom
958 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 16:38:55
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| if he's only slightly smaller he should be fine. What weights/lengths/age are they both? |
 
1.0.0 - Gobo - Snow Corn (RIP)
0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn
2.0.0 Anery Hatchlings
0.1.0 Amel Hatchling
0.1.0 Normal Hatchling
*Location - Southampton, UK*
http://www.weneedcake.co.uk |
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 19:45:50
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He weighs about 250g and he's just under 3ft and he's three this year.
She weighs 320g and she's 3ft and a few inches she's four this year.
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Edited by - HannaH on 06/06/2010 23:22:59 |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 20:44:41
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Size wise you are absolutely fine, its the female thats the worry in these situations, the male is just the sperm donor basically, his job is done in a few minutes!
The reason size is an issue is because they have to carry the eggs, which involves them having the resources to actually make them in the first place.
Your female is a good size, but dont expect a huge amount of eggs in the first year. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 20:56:18
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| Thanks =] much appriciated |
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 22:02:35
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Hi,
I`m new here and i got a pair of cali red corn snakes and i`m hoping to breed them as soon as i can as the female is a year and three weeks old and size is small and the male i got is larger and not sure on the age as i`ve had him for about three months and my son reckons he is older then my female and the names of the snake are ruby and red i hope someone can advice when it will be best to breed them thank you for any help given. |
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 22:05:11
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| Females need to be AT LEAST 3 years old, 3ft long and 300g to breed safely. Otherwise they risk becoming egg bound and this can be fatal. So If you want to be breeding the female, you need to wait at least 2 years, and make sure she is big and heavy enough as long as being healthy. |
2.0 Normal Corn "Monty" "Charlie"
0.1 Amel Corn "May"
1.0 Western Hognose "Gerard" |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Mouse
Yearling
United Kingdom
958 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 15:14:08
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eeji, who were you replying to?
I'm guessing HannaH, not Tracy
Tracy, please look up breeding tips on this section. There should be lots, but what Jay said is right. If they're too young/small then problems can occur. Mine is over 3, was about 600g ish and is over 5 foot. She got eggbound, but was ok in the end.
I'm sure you would rather wait than have the huge vet bills / potential death that could occur from breeding too early.
xx |
1.0.0 - Gobo - Snow Corn (RIP)
0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn
2.0.0 Anery Hatchlings
0.1.0 Amel Hatchling
0.1.0 Normal Hatchling
*Location - Southampton, UK*
http://www.weneedcake.co.uk |
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 15:33:15
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Originally posted by eeji
he'll be fine with her - last year I used an 07 male with an 06 female and got 21 eggs from her first breeding :)
She's shed and ready to drop again this year so we'll see if we get another good sized clutch from her :)
Fingers crossed, I'm a little unsure about getting them ready for next season, I read all sorts on burmation and some say its work it other say dont bother I'm so worried that if I burmate them one or both might become ill  (even tho they are both in perfect condition) |
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Mouse
Yearling
United Kingdom
958 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 19:12:11
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I started lowering the temps a few degrees a day till I got to 18C in Jan, then end of 2nd week in MArch bought them back up.
Gave a feed a week before lowering temps, waited for big ol poo, then just water after that, otherwise they won't digest properly and it could rot in their stomach.
When you've bought the temps up, give her as much food as she wants, (same with male, as when they get horny, they go off food.) some people suggest putting calcium dust on the mice, and I would suggest reptiboost in the water for her.
give about 2 feeds (some say 2, some say 3) wait for poo again, then you can introduce them.
I took them both out so they met in neutral ground, and they fair on ignored each other first 2 times, then 3rd time, I was nearly a rape mat, so I put them in her viv (as hers is bigger!), removed all trashable items, and left them too it.
Some people say seperate and put together daily, removing when finished, some people say leave in for 2 weeks, as she may not be ovulating when they first do it, or he may not have got it right etc. the more locks they have the better chance.
make sure she takes what she can food wise, as when the eggs get to a certain size, she'll go off her food, and it'll be her body weight that sustains them. Also, if there isn't enough calcium, she could get eggbound.
Rah! 
anything I've missed??
(apart from, beware of hormonal stroppy snake syndrome!- tail rattling, trashing the viv, and rubbing herself over everything possible happen towards the end of being gravid!) |
1.0.0 - Gobo - Snow Corn (RIP)
0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn
2.0.0 Anery Hatchlings
0.1.0 Amel Hatchling
0.1.0 Normal Hatchling
*Location - Southampton, UK*
http://www.weneedcake.co.uk |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 19:28:26
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Originally posted by eeji
he'll be fine with her - last year I used an 07 male with an 06 female and got 21 eggs from her first breeding :)
She's shed and ready to drop again this year so we'll see if we get another good sized clutch from her :)
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Originally posted by Mouse
eeji, who were you replying to?
I'm guessing HannaH, not Tracy
sorry, yes the above reply was to HannaH.
Tracy, please can you start your own thread so as not to confuse people :) |
Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 20:13:42
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Cheers Mouse, all that was really helpful 
just one more question, when do you think is best to start turning down the heat?
I've hurd October middle of November ? What do you think?
Just a heads up for anyone that is reading, I'm most likely going to be posting every step of the way through this from the start of burmation to the ( hopeful ) eggs next season
Ta |
Edited by - HannaH on 04/06/2010 20:15:42 |
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Mouse
Yearling
United Kingdom
958 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 20:37:35
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As for the posting, that's cool, it's a good idea, as I know from experience, the first time is midly panick enducing, and you constantly worry that you're doing something wrong!!! People saying, 'chill, it's all ok' is very helpful!
Some people do start brumation at that time, although I didn't. I was advised about 6 week brumation period, but your best plan is to look through the search button on Brumation. I spose it depends when u want them to hatch.
Be aware that 'breeding season' is just about over now, so if you get them horny at xmas, you're gonna have a horny snake who is constantly trying to escape and trashing the viv and not eating....
There are several posts about how irritating this can be!!!! |
1.0.0 - Gobo - Snow Corn (RIP)
0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn
2.0.0 Anery Hatchlings
0.1.0 Amel Hatchling
0.1.0 Normal Hatchling
*Location - Southampton, UK*
http://www.weneedcake.co.uk |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 23:17:50
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You dont actually have to brumate corns for them to breed, but, it does give them a much better chance of having a good clutch.
I start to cool mine down towards the middle of october, then bring them back up to temp in feb. As with a lot of things with corns and other snakes, there is no specific right way to do something, each to their own with whatever works. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2010 : 15:57:34
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I thought everyone bermated there snakes at the same time?
It will be my females first attempt at a cluch next season and I wanted to give her a good chance..
Dose burmation make that much difference to the cluch size? And is it worth it for her first try?
Ta |
Edited by - HannaH on 06/06/2010 23:22:12 |
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HannaH
Egg
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2010 : 16:20:10
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Slightly off subject:
I'm really terrible with names of morphs so if I do have a sucessful cluch I wouldn't know what to call them,
My boy is amel and female snow can anyone shed some light on what morphs they'll be?
Ta |
Edited by - HannaH on 06/06/2010 23:21:58 |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2010 : 19:08:19
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quote:
Originally posted by HannaH
Slightly off subject:
I'm really terrible with names of morphs so if I do have a sucessful cluch I wouldn't know what to call them,
My boy is amel and female snow can anyone shed some light on what morphs they'll be?
Ta
they should all be amel het anery. If you get any snows too, this will prove your amel male as het anery. |
Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2010 : 20:25:03
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Originally posted by HannaH
I thought everyone bermated there snakes at the same time?
It will be my females first attempt at a cluch next season and I wanted to give her a good chance..
Dose burmation make that much difference to the cluch size? And is it worth it for her first try?
Ta
It can make a difference, a good cycling can give a good clutch. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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