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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  20:00:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi again stil new to this forum and being a snake owner. ive got both a heat mat and light inside my viv. Just got my thermostat for the heat mat and just needed some help.
What is the correct temp i should keep the thermostat on??
and is it right to keep the light on in daytime and then use the heat mat of night once ive turned the light off??
thanks

gmac
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  20:04:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the temps should be around 27 - 29 degrees, you will have to tweak the thermostat dial until the temps on the substrate at the warm end reach these temps.

The temp dials on the stat arent all that accurate so best trial and error using digital thermometer as guide.

you really dont need a light as a mat is sufficient for your corns heat through the day and night. if you use a light use one that will not emit heat and have it gaurded.



Edited by - gmac on 23/04/2010 20:06:22
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  20:16:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd echo what gmac has to say about temps, and no need for a heat lamp or anything.

Snakes absorb most, if not all of the heat through their belly's, so a heat mat is ideal. No harm in having a light in there to help you find him etc. but would only really ever turn it on when your going in there and if it does omit heat then make sure its guarded as you dont want snakey burning himself.
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  20:31:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the help, yer av got a guard rnd it :),
duznt the snake need the light to know its daylight??
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gmac
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  21:53:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Toni-Mc


duznt the snake need the light to know its daylight??



enough light will get to the viv / faun / rub through your windows.


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punumbear
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  21:55:27  Show Profile  Click to see punumbear's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
no where in this yet have u mentioned havin a digital therm???


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DannyBrown91
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Posted - 23/04/2010 :  23:45:52  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Do you have a digi therm? you need one to measure temps in order to tweak the stat.

As Gmac said, keep the heat mat on all day and night. The light is not needed but if you do want one get a low wottage one that dosn't emit heat. It dosn't need to be left on all day but can be.

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Kellog
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Posted - 24/04/2010 :  03:26:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need to echo what the others have said about the necessity of having a digital thermometer....because if you dont then you have no real way of knowing what temp the heatmat is at. Stats have been known to malfunction or if the probe for the stat is moved by the snake then it will register the wrong temp and adjust the heatmat accordingly, maybe raising it dangerously high. I know a number of forum members use these and they are fast delivery - ebay link

You also need to make sure that the probe for the stat and the thermometer are correctly set up. They need to be lying horizontally along the heatmat (some members even use a rubber band to connect the 2 probes) and then weighed down using a heavy hide or rocks so that they remain in contact with the heatmat at all times. I found out the necessity of having a thermometer and weighing down the probes because Silvesta somehow managed to push the stat probe so it was facing sky high, so of course was reading the ambient temp rather than the temp at the heatmat level. Luckily he hadnt moved the thermometer probe and I saw it was reading 30.2oC! Too hot! I immediately investigated and found out what had happened. Since then both probes have been well weighed down with rocks and stones so he cant get at them!!

As has already been mentioned, the heatmat runs 24hrs a day....supplying the snake with a constant warm end and cool end.

I am so glad you have got your bulb guarded....not only is there the danger of the snake burning itself but also of it curling around the bulb and crushing it, which could cause horrible injuries. I have my bulbs on timers, they come on at 7am and turn off at 10pm. They are purely for my own use to be able to see into the vivs (my lounge is quite dark) and are the lowest wattage energy bulbs you can get.

xxx



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Posted - 25/04/2010 :  18:50:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kellog - I'm new to this too and just bought digital thermostat from your link :)
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Sta~ple
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Posted - 25/04/2010 :  19:23:24  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Lol I think in between me and Kellog that company on ebay must be making a small fortune on their digi thermometers XD

If you open the curtains in the room the snake is in that is enough light for the day, no light needed. It's a bit of a fiddle if you use the lights for day and heatmat for night really if you think about it and during the time you turn off your light and have your heat mat on, it might get very warm in there.



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Posted - 25/04/2010 :  21:06:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I seem to have inherited a young corn snake (about 10 months). This came from my son who keeps Beartded dragons, etc. This one escaped but turned up almost 2 months later, after he went out and purchased another.(both Ambalistic??)

He's about 50cm long in a 50cm tank, do I keep the 40W reflector lamp on or go and buy a 5-7W heat mat, (size about 6" square). Would this still require a thermostat?? Some suppliers seem to suggest, their not needed, surely 6W can't get that hot!!
Kind regards
Mel aka Cactusface
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DannyBrown91
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Posted - 25/04/2010 :  22:59:15  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Amelistic, or Amel for short is the morph.

The lamp should be ok aslong as it is statted and guarded. But if you do decide to get a heatmat it would till need a thermostat. Any heat source needs to be statted.

As for the advice you got from the "supplier" it is wrong, and believe or not its not uncommon. Many rep/pet shops give somewhat questionable advice, althoughit is found more in pet shops that have expanded into reptiles for the extra profits rather than the shops that specialise in them.

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eeji
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Posted - 26/04/2010 :  18:32:49  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the stat you use for the light won't work with a mat, and the stat you would use for a mat won't work with a light. Lights aren't really neccesary, heat mats are sufficient.

a 6w mat will still put out the same heat for a given area as a higher rated mat - 99% of the time more wattage = bigger size mat.


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