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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
4428 Posts |
 Posted - 14/04/2010 : 19:25:32
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Unfortunatly I had Henry put down today.
Her medical history for people who dont know (its pretty relevant):
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=2931&SearchTerms=henry
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=3428&SearchTerms=henry
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=3892&SearchTerms=henry
On the 3rd of April, two small bumps appeared on her left side close together under her scar. They looked like abscesses. She had had one a few years ago with her previous owner on the other side of her tail level with her vent. The usual treatment it antibiotics after is has been drained with a needle.
If you look between my fingers, you can see the abscess she had years ago.
The lumps felt like fluid with a small solid mass under each one. The masses weren’t fixed, they would move backwards if touched.
On the 7th, both bumps had joined together, and the tail was slightly "full" on the left side. It still felt fluidy with 2 small solid masses.
On the 10th, the bump had expanded and was visible from the side; it was making a bump underneath.
The next day it was larger and was pushing scales apart. It had also made a bump on the right side. A slightly smaller bump had formed about an inch closer to the head end. This bump was not central, or on the side of the snake, it was somewhere in-between. I was about the size of a marble. This meant there was a gap underneath her because of the two bumps. At this point I though the bumps were tumours instead of abscesses.
She also started losing scale condition:
The next day (12th), she was taken to my rep vet (Polly Cornwell at highcroft veterinary group, wouldn’t take her to see anyone else). She was kept in over night and had an x-ray and ultrasound.
Unfortunately she had produced eggs again, I really didnt expect this as the lumps were irregular. The two smaller bumps at the start were caused by the eggs pushing against something inside of her, possibley scar tissue from her last op. My options were to have the eggs surgically removed, as well as her reproductive tract, or have the eggs surgically removed and have her fitted with a deslorelin implant. The main issue was if I was to have the surgery to just remove the eggs, she will be in exactly the same situation next year unless we can stop her from producing eggs.
The surgery to remove the eggs would be much like the surgery she had before. Though to remove her reproductive organs, she would have had to have multiple incisions along her body which just isn’t fair. Its also close to a majour blood supply, and there is a low chance of survival. The only other way to attempt to stop her producing eggs is through the use of a hormone called deslorelin.
Deslorelin is a mammal hormone which prevents ovulation; it’s commonly used in ferrets. It has previously been used on green iguanas, though i'm not sure if has any proven effect on them. If Henry had had it, it would have very likely been a world first on a snake. Unfortunately, it’s not likely to work.
So, I though the kindest thing to do was put her down. She was 15 years old, not bad I think.
I watched her being put down, and helped to hold her still. I realise not everyone would want to do that, but were all different. If anyone wants to know how they are put down, i’m quite happy to explain it, don’t worry, its not gory, I just don’t think everyone will want to hear it. PM me on the reptilian if you do.
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Takagi
Egg
United Kingdom
66 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 19:34:23
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Im really sorry for you, but yea 15 years is a good run I think (least of what I have be reading up on)
anyway my thoughts go out to you! |
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mozacchio
Sub Adult
Greece
1135 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 19:37:15
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R.I.P. henry.. 
I'm so sorry for your loss.. |
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
5491 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 19:42:36
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am really sorry Matt, Henry was a gorgeous snake and a real credit to you after everything you went through together last year,
RIP Henry x |
2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
1.0 Chihauhaun Mountain Kingsnake - Simba
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kizzig
Yearling
United Kingdom
560 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 20:09:34
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Sorry for your loss Matty. Replied on thereptilian but thought we'd post here too.
RIP Henry |
Kizzig
Our ever growing menagerie:
1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.
RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)
   
   
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 20:13:28
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I'm so sorry!
Poor Henry :(
atleast she had a happy life with you before she passed
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reptiledanny
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1809 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 20:17:20
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| sorry for your loss, at least he had a good life with you, you made the correct choice |
1.1 royal pythons 0.1 hog island boa 1.0 corn snake
sig made by stapey |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 20:20:20
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| I'm sorry for your loss... Bless her. Can snake retain sperm or something then? I now have a soggy keyboard T.T |
  
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 20:51:55
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R.I.P.
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Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
4428 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 21:09:09
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Thanks all.
Sta~ple, they can, but she has never been bred. She produced infertile eggs on both occasions. |
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
2197 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 21:27:26
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Sorry for your loss Matty - R.I.P Henry - Atleast he will be kicking back with the angels above. 
I would like to know how they put him down if you don't mind explaining please. |
0.0.0 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P
1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey
Wish List:
1.2.0 Royal Python - Pastel , Pinstripe , Lesser. |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
4428 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 21:36:09
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Henry was female, short for Henrietta (and the production of eggs should have been a give away).
I have PM'd you on The Reptilian. |
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441 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 22:15:44
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Sorry to hear that Matty but it sounds you did the right thing for Henry.
15 years is a good stretch no punt intended. Again sorry about Henry |
 
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 22:32:53
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| sorry for your loss Matty. |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 22:46:29
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| So so sorry Matt. She really had been through the wringer bless her. You did the kindest thing you could for her and was with her to the end. She couldn't have asked for better care. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 14/04/2010 : 23:01:59
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R.I.P
I'm so sorry for your loss, you made the correct choices, she had been through enough as it is and 15 years is a stretch especially with a caring owner such as yourself. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
Location: Liverpool |
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crazy JJ
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2326 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2010 : 01:29:44
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R.I.P to Henry
At least she had the best poss care and its great to know you were there till the end and now she has no pain or no worries n she can just r.i.p
Im sooo sorry 4 ur loss tho Matty |
2.5 corns 2.0 cali kings 1.0 tange hondo milk 1.0 apricot pueblan milk 1.0 royal (overgrown slug) 0.1 tarantula 1.0 chinchilla chico, 0.1 goldfish tigger 0.0.4 minows 0.2 cats fudge and porsha and 0.3.2 tarantula’s that are my mummys
r.i.p to the lil ones that i and mummy have lost recently |
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KITTYCAT
Hatchling
United Kingdom
492 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2010 : 08:10:09
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sorry for your loss matty but you did the kindest thing
R.I.P Henry |
1.0.0 carolina corn (herbie)
0.1.0 snow corn (casper)
0.0.1 anery motley corn(diesel)
0.0.1 calafornia banded king snake (ozzy)
0.1.0 royal python (pandora)
0.0.1 boa constrictor (bullet)
1.0.0 weinmaraner (zac)
1.0.0 staffy (zeus)
1.1.0 cats (sophie n pepe)
0.0.1 fish (fish)
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Mouse
Yearling
United Kingdom
958 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2010 : 09:41:28
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I'm so sorry
*hugs* |
 
1.0.0 - Gobo - Snow Corn (RIP)
0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn
2.0.0 Anery Hatchlings
0.1.0 Amel Hatchling
0.1.0 Normal Hatchling
*Location - Southampton, UK*
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col654
Egg
United Kingdom
83 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2010 : 10:21:01
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1.0.0 Corn Becardi
1.1.0 royal brezer |
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Jennet
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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R.I.P Henry
