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Sammysnake
Yearling

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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  17:23:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love this pic of Twilight but it made me think, where do they keep their tongues when they're not using them? Is it attached to the roof of the mouth rather than the bottom side like our is? Weird...


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herriotfan
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  17:55:21  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That's a good question, and a lovely photo










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mozacchio
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Greece
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  18:06:54  Show Profile  Click to see mozacchio's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I can't answer your question, sorry!
Nice photo though..!
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  18:10:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good question!
you intruiged me, so i googled it lol
the web gave nothing, but i found this picture:
http://cornellpress.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/parrotsnake.jpg
looks to be hiding away under the windpipe(?)

Fantastic photo though; Twilight is so pretty :)

Edited by - Figs on 10/04/2010 18:12:24
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Twi
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  18:13:04  Show Profile  Click to see Twi's MSN Messenger address  Send Twi a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Snakes tongues are at the bottom but they not like ours they are kept in like a little tunnel of skin (best way i can think to explain it XD) on the bottom jaw lol this picture shows it: http://sunspotsproductions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSC_47041.jpg


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mozacchio
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Greece
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  18:16:26  Show Profile  Click to see mozacchio's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Figs

good question!
you intruiged me, so i googled it lol
the web gave nothing, but i found this picture:
http://cornellpress.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/parrotsnake.jpg
looks to be hiding away under the windpipe(?)



Thanks!
That one i didn't know..!
Like the photo, too!
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herriotfan
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  18:49:55  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Wow, that's cool. How interesting, glad the question was asked.


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Kellog
the nice one

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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  22:00:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fantastic pic of Twilight (but then I am always very biased where Twilight is concerned ). Have got a very similar picture of Silvesta that I must post....but I must admit it never crossed my mind where their tongues disappeared to!

xxx



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HannahB
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Posted - 10/04/2010 :  22:35:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
great pic - Twilight is looking great
if you look carefully you can see where the tongue disappears to when its not in use..so to speak lol


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Sta~ple
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Posted - 11/04/2010 :  00:00:07  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Haha he's all slobbery XD



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crazy JJ
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Posted - 11/04/2010 :  01:12:48  Show Profile  Click to see crazy JJ's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
great pic of twilight :D (only the best 4 that name eh haha i believe u told me once)

never reli thought about that either... hmmm now i kinda know... learn something everyday lol :D

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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 11/04/2010 :  02:13:56  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Twi

Snakes tongues are at the bottom but they not like ours they are kept in like a little tunnel of skin (best way i can think to explain it XD) on the bottom jaw lol this picture shows it: http://sunspotsproductions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSC_47041.jpg



You're nearly bang on.
The tunnel in that pic is the windpipe or to be more precise, the glottis.
The glottis is the tube on the end of the windpipe that can move to the side when eating so they can still breath.
If you watch your snakes when eating quite often you'll see it pop out from either side of the mouth, or from under the prey.

Their tongues come out from a small little slit like opening just in front of the glottis.


And while we're on the subject of the tongues I shall also try to explain why they're forked.

Everyone know they essentially smell with their tongues.
The tongue picks up a scent and then flicks it quickly to touch what is called the jacobsons organ which is in the roof of the mouth.
The jacobsons organ has 2 small openings, one for each side of the forked tongue. If the left hand side of the tongue produces fractionally more scent than the right hand side, then the snake knows to move to the left a bit. If it's the same on both sides then carry on forwards.

It's possible to see this in action by getting a pinky/mouse or whatever your snake is feeding on and tap it in a squiggly line across a piece of paper/clean glass table top.
As the snake tracks the scent that the prey (you and the mouse) have left, you'll see it's tongue flicking fast and also more curved in the direction that you scent marked.

I think we've covered the jacobson organ in a similar post somewhere, I shall try to find it.

/quick edit

Found it in the archives.

This one from this time last year: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=3041

And this from May 2009: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=3709

Hope that gives some useful info as well.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon


Edited by - Kehhlyr on 11/04/2010 02:20:09
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Kellog
the nice one

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Posted - 11/04/2010 :  03:51:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is a really well explained post Kehhlyr, thank you !

There is so much we take for granted with our corns but dont really understand how they do it....and when we actually take the time to think about it, it shows what an awesome creation they are .

xxx


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elament
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Posted - 11/04/2010 :  12:08:06  Show Profile  Send elament a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Kehhlyr that was really interesting to know thank you

Cheers

steve

Editted to add: OOPS sorry nice pic of twilight but then I am one of the growing army of fans (want one meself he is stunning)



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Edited by - elament on 11/04/2010 12:09:03
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Sammysnake
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Posted - 11/04/2010 :  18:25:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, what fab info. I'm so glad I asked this question. Thanks everyone for all the lovely things you say about Twilight - he's actually very dull in colour at the moment and I'm expecting him to go into hiding very soon ready for a shed. I'll see if I can post a shiny photo in the near future!


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