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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24/02/2010 : 19:06:13
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Hey
Right, as you know I bred my 2 corns for the first time on the 15th of January, and they mated a total of 4 or 5 times.
Since they have been split up Mushu has been spending a lot of time in her laying box. She shed about a week ago, and the past 4 days has been really active, searching to escape and even climbing all over the branches in her viv.
Her abdomen does look slightly swollen, but not hugely, and when looking at her from above there isn't any obvious swelling. When she runs through my hands she feels odd- but not lumpy.
Please help, I'm really confused and a bit disappointed. 
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9.11 Cornsnakes
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2010 : 20:42:27
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Originally posted by eeji
put a lay box in with her just to be on the safe side :)
She's got one already, when she's not out exploring she is in it. |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 10:46:08
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Picture of the body- |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 11:56:19
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Its difficult to say, generally its 6 weeks or so from a succesful mating, but if she has just shed then that's rougly 5 weeks, so if she lays it will be within about 7 days from the shed.
Its not always easy or possible to know for sure on bigger snakes without an ultrasound.
Just keep an eye on her, check on her every morning, if you find her laying, don't disturb her or try and take the eggs, let her be, check her 24 hours later, remove the eggs and let her rest, she will be knackered! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 12:01:34
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Cheers for the info Mike.
Is she turns out not to be gravid, what could the reasons for this be? Just wanting to know for future reference.
Also, if she isn't, would it be acceptable to try again this year, or leave it till next year?
Thanks. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 12:39:27
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If she isn't, too right put them together again!
I don't know why they don't produce eggs sometimes, but I would guess its due to missing the ovulation period. With mine I put them together for a day, separate for a day, lock or no lock, I will keep doing that for about 2 or 3 weeks. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 12:49:18
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Originally posted by mikerichards
If she isn't, too right put them together again!
I don't know why they don't produce eggs sometimes, but I would guess its due to missing the ovulation period. With mine I put them together for a day, separate for a day, lock or no lock, I will keep doing that for about 2 or 3 weeks.
Yeah I was putting them together for 2 weeks, but I obviously didn't do it properly lol!! I must be the worlds worst breeder 
Thanks so much for your advice, I will wait another week and then throw them back in together, with a stern word about trying harder  |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 12:59:36
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Don't panic yet! You don't know for sure if she's not gravid! If you hold her up by neck and tail, hold her so her belly hangs down, you might see a few egg shaped lumps.
Also, weigh her, let me know what she weighs. She looks chunky like my girl was, she was 940g gravid, 500g the rest of the time. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 13:14:32
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Originally posted by mikerichards
Don't panic yet! You don't know for sure if she's not gravid! If you hold her up by neck and tail, hold her so her belly hangs down, you might see a few egg shaped lumps.
Also, weigh her, let me know what she weighs. She looks chunky like my girl was, she was 940g gravid, 500g the rest of the time.
Ok I will go and weigh her, she is seriously grumpy atm so may be a bit fiesty!!
Right- weight is 530g, before she met Casper she was 500g, she hasnt eaten since then, and was on a maintenance diet- so she has gained weight, but only a very small amount.
Pics- from the top
Belly-
This ^ pic shows the greatest swelling but its still not a huge amount, I think I saw a couple of bumps but when she moved they vanished. *sigh* |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 14:58:25
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Its really hard to see properly, it doesn't help that I am on my phone! Its promising that she has gained weight, when was the last time she was locked? You might be working from that date rather than the first, the other option is it isn't a large clutch. My girl weighed about 900g and laid 28 eggs, and double clutched!
I think its promising, but not harm in being prepared for her not being gravid.
I can see them a little better now, she's a good size!
I think you might be a little too far up the body, for 6 weeks I would expect there to be more of a swelling towards her tail, although, the swelling further up the body could be early indications, when was the last time she mated? I would keep putting them together for now.
I forgot about the main indicator! Has she stopped eating? If not then keep whacking the food down her, maybe a little calcium dust too. If she won't take big stuff like normal, try her on little fluffs, she might take one, then you can get calcium into her easily. I forgot to say earlier the main indicator that they are gravid is going off their food! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 15:26:45
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The swelling higher up continues a good way down. Last mating.... maybe 3 weeks ago, but brain is foggy!!!
And yes she isn't eating atm, just very active. I will offer a small fuzzy with some calcium and see what happens. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 18:31:09
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| Sounds promising then, it might have been the last 'session' that fertilised her, so maybe another 3 weeks or so until she drops, but seeing as she has shed, i would expect sometime in the next week or so. see whether she eats a small fluff, you never know! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2010 : 18:40:07
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Originally posted by mikerichards
Sounds promising then, it might have been the last 'session' that fertilised her, so maybe another 3 weeks or so until she drops, but seeing as she has shed, i would expect sometime in the next week or so. see whether she eats a small fluff, you never know!
Thanks so much for your help.
Nervous granny syndrome!!  |
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KITTYCAT
Hatchling
United Kingdom
492 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2010 : 10:39:40
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| The scales on her underside will start to protrude feeling kind of jaggy and watch out for strange bathing rituals( whole body in the water with a good bit of her neck sticking) up that would be a sign that she will lay shortly. good luck |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2010 : 11:15:45
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She didn't eat the small mouse I set out for her overnight, but still no eggs.
I have swapped her big water bowl for a small one as I've heard too many stories about eggs being laid in the water and not being any good. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2010 : 11:52:00
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Well that's encouraging, seeing as she has a nest box its unlikely she will drop in the water bowl, but a good precaution anyway.
Are you keeping her next box nice and damp? She could lay at anytime, but most of mine have been early mornings. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2010 : 12:28:58
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| Yes, nest box is damp and she uses it all the time. I didn't know how common it is for them to lay in the bowl, but better safe than sorry!!! |
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1.1 Hogg island boas
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 26/02/2010 : 15:07:24
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| Yeah of course! I haven't heard of them doing it that often, its more likely to happen if there is no damp hide, or no hide at all, have had a gecko lay in the water, and she had the choice of 2 dry hides and 1 damp one! I think you will be fine. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 27/02/2010 : 16:44:59
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| Still no eggs |
9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python
Location: Watford
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 27/02/2010 : 16:49:21
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| patience!!! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Is she gravid!?!
