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gingerpony
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  12:16:49  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
oh hun i've only just seen this thread *hugs*

it sounds like the vet has given him something fairly gentle, a highly effective wormer could cause much more serious problems with mass migration/death of worms in any animal with a substantial worm burden.

fingers crossed for you both hun and please keep us posted *hugs*

MR - egg counts are easily and quickly done at a vet practice rather than incurring the additional costs of sending to an external lab although it's down to practice policy

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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  13:42:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh well, our vet won't do it! Says it not accurate enough, but then he just gives us the blood and we do our own fecals anyway, Kate my o/h works in a vet lab so does it all on a day to day basis.

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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  15:37:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The vet I took him to has an on-site lab, and he'd done a poo on the way there so she was able to do an egg count under the microscope while I waited. I was actually really impressed with the vet, she was very competent and a very good handler.

The whole consult, 2 different wormers and the critical care formula, as well as the fecal cost me just under £50 so was quite relieved at that too.

He is indeed on Panacur, and something along the lines of Flagevyl or something for the other ones. He doesnt appreciate me trying to syringe it into his mouth though.... nippy little bleep.
Good thing is Im pretty friendly with one of the senior lab technicians at uni who has very kindly said I can use the microscopes they have to do egg counts, and one of the Phd students (doing parasitology!) has volunteered to help me prepare the slides and spot any nasties- lovely peeps!

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  16:03:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pic of Croc taken yesterday- see the skin sagging near his neck?


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mikerichards
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Posted - 19/02/2010 :  16:08:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah he is very skinny, keep that ccf going in, he will be able to absorb that much quicker so will lose less to the worms do!

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gingerpony
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  13:54:31  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

...and something along the lines of Flagevyl...

Flagyl S ?

it's a metronidazole-based antibiotic effective against protozoa/micro-organisms

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  14:00:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

...and something along the lines of Flagevyl...

Flagyl S ?

it's a metronidazole-based antibiotic effective against protozoa/micro-organisms



Lol thats the one

Croc still with us today, and definitely gone blue, which I am taking as a good sign. Managed to do the oral wormer single handedly this morning, pretty impressive eh??

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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  14:10:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats good news Rach. Its great GP is here to help too! It seems as though Mike has some experience with ill snakes too. Lets hope he sheds soon- I think everyday he's here is a day where the infections/worms are being fought so fingers crossed!



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gingerpony
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  14:14:30  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77
Managed to do the oral wormer single handedly this morning, pretty impressive eh??

i know what you mean lol it can be difficult with an unco-operative snake in one hand ans a syringe in the other........... well done hun

and glad he's still with us!
i was thinking he looked duller in the most recent pics and worried it might be a reflection on his health but i'd so glad he's just in blue!!

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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  15:46:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Touch wood, i havent had much in the way of ill snakes, it was the geckos that had the problems!
For 50 quid thats a bargain! the panacur works very well for pin worm, the flaggywhatever stuff is quite good too from what i hear. I dont see any reason why the snake shouldnt survive, out little mrs gecko was terribly thin, she lost a lot of weight in less than a week!
The only thing that is worth considering, is where the worms came from, normally pin worm doesnt come from frozen, more live food, locusts etc.
Either way, dont buy any frozen from the place you got him from.

mike

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  15:52:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

The only thing that is worth considering, is where the worms came from, normally pin worm doesnt come from frozen, more live food, locusts etc.
Either way, dont buy any frozen from the place you got him from.

mike



Thanks for that Mike, really reassuring to hear how well your gecko did. The only thing that worries me is the mention of underlying health issues, liver/kidney problems. I really do hope he just need a good old "pick-me-up!"- now matter how much he bites.

And rest assured, I am never buying anything from that hell hole again!! Given I don't know the slightest bit about him, he could even be WC, which may explain the parastites.

And thanks very much godzchild as well, very sad to hear about your Robins, but I bet they had a lovely summer in that park.

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mikerichards
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Posted - 20/02/2010 :  23:39:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pin worms are common in lizards, they come from the food, the locusts and crickets. Parasites like these are not as uncommon as people think, people just dont realise until its too late.
Its always worth having a worm check when something loses weight for no apparent reason.
Little Mrs is doing really well now, she's not put all the weight back on but shes stable and doing well. It was almost a year ago now she had them.


Shes also poo at shedding!

A bit off topic, the cat is doing his crust charging around like a bull in a china shop making all sorts of noises! lol

***edited for language by GP***

Location : Worthing, West Sussex

Edited by - gingerpony on 24/02/2010 11:05:46
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zandefloss
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Posted - 21/02/2010 :  16:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Come on croc, we all love you and want to see you turn into a lovely fatty snakey, I'm thinking about you both - keep us up to date.

zan x
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Posted - 21/02/2010 :  20:28:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just read ur thread i wish you luck and i hope it all goes well for you both

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 21/02/2010 :  20:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ta very much guys, I tried to tell Croc how much you lot are rooting for him but he bit me.

Guess he isn't impressed about the indignities of being wormed!
x

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kdlang
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Posted - 21/02/2010 :  21:25:41  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I guess him biting you is actually a good sign. At least it shows he has some fight left in him. Keeping my fingers crossed for you both.

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Kellog
the nice one

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Posted - 22/02/2010 :  05:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rach - you know I have been away and not on forum as much as I want to be, so have only just read this topic and found out about Croc.

I dont need to put into words what I want to say....I think you know me well enough to know. Just want to hug you (and Croc...if he wouldnt bite me!)

You know I am here for you - anytime.

Ju xxx


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Posted - 24/02/2010 :  11:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
keeping fingers and toes crossed for lil croc! hope he is doing ok right now
hang in there SB, and carry on doing the great job you are doing!

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