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jbarnes92
Egg

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2010 :  20:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay so asuka is 13'' long, and the faunarium she is in looks crumby in my room and I'm getting a nice wage packet soon and was thinking of buying her a nice vivarium, if I packed it out with branches / greenery with a couple of hides and decor would this be okay to house her?
http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/vivariums-416/compact-vivariums--1310/vivexotic-36in-compact-vivarium-beech-138751.html

failing that how about this one?
http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/vivariums-416/compact-vivariums--1310/vivexotic-24in-compact-vivarium-oak-138749.html

Lowestoft, Suffolk

Hunter - Jungle Carpet Python
3 Corn Snakes
Murphy - Black Labrador [ R.I.P ;( ]
Meg - Black Labrador
Rhea - Sprocker Spaniel
Jack - Rotty / Labrador
Trigger - Tabby Cat

Fernando Pierre
Hatchling

South Africa
224 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2010 :  20:49:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
EITHER ONE WOULD BE GREAT, DON'T FORGET THAT CORN DON'T LIKE HUGE SPACES!


1.0.0 Snow Corn- Diablo
1.0.0 Ball Python
1.0.0 Tri-coloured honduran - Feta (R.I.P. my love!!!You will never be forgoten!)

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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2010 :  20:59:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To be honest, its too big, i know if you pack it out with all kinds of stuff you can make the effective space smaller, but its really too big.
By all means buy it, but i really wouldnt use it yet.
I am sure others would disagree with me, but my personal opinion, i wouldnt.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2010 :  21:22:54  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If your corn is 13 inches long i would keep it in the faun for a while yet. My Bloodred is around 14 - 15 inches long and still has plenty of room left in his faun yet.

Im with Mike on this one, both of those vivs are too big. How big is your faun? I have the large exo terra faun and i think i measured that it should be ok housing my snakes untill they are around 18 inches long at which point i am going to buy the VX36 vivs and section 1/3 off, expanding it as he gets bigger.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2010 :  22:50:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

To be honest, its too big, i know if you pack it out with all kinds of stuff you can make the effective space smaller, but its really too big.
By all means buy it, but i really wouldnt use it yet.
I am sure others would disagree with me, but my personal opinion, i wouldnt.



THIS.

9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/
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jbarnes92
Egg

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2010 :  23:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, I'll still buy it as I have the money and stuff for her so I've got it ready.. Just won't put her in yet (sigh)
Danny I've got the same faun as you, it's just it's starting to look a bit.. Out of place as it's laying next to my bed (best way I thought of her getting used to my smell)
may make a Viv in college if I find the time and purposely build in some slots so I can section it off..hmmm

Lowestoft, Suffolk

Hunter - Jungle Carpet Python
3 Corn Snakes
Murphy - Black Labrador [ R.I.P ;( ]
Meg - Black Labrador
Rhea - Sprocker Spaniel
Jack - Rotty / Labrador
Trigger - Tabby Cat
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LittleMick
Yearling

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  19:17:37  Show Profile  Visit LittleMick's Homepage  Click to see LittleMick's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Personally I don't agree with the "Too much space stesses out snakes" theory, BUT saying that, the welfare of any anima in my care is paramount, so I can't ignore the possibility. SO .... I would stick with the faun for now. he still has alot of growth in her to out grow it.

When you say it look crumby, do you mean the faun itself? Or it's contents? Any enclosure can look "crumby" or what I would call steryle. I daresay the snake doesn't really care as along as it's basic needs are met, hides, temps, food/water source.

It's generally the Americans that tend to keep to steryle enclosures and us Europeans that like to flash things up abit. Elijah is in the Exo Terra Large Flat Faun and I think it looks great, a Plastic Boston Fern, an ET Silk Vine along one of the lengths, a water dish and his 2 hides with Aspen substrate. I've done as much as I can with the size but he doen't need any more.

He was about 13" when I got him, he is now 18.1" and he will saty in there a good while longer yet, I'll re-evaluate at 24-30".


0.4.0 Gerbils (Gemini, Pica, Gerty and Sasha)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Elle)
1.0.0 Carolina Corn Snake(Elijah)
0.0.1 Emperor/Imperial Scorpion (Abbi)
2.0.0 Roborovski Dwarf Hamsters (Micro & Chippy)
Tropical fish - 6 Platys.6 Mollies.9 Glowlight Tetra.4 Pearl Gouramis.4 Apple Snails.1 Tiger Plec.2 Common Bristlenose Plecs and lots of babies.
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jbarnes92
Egg

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  20:51:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No I mean the faun itself, I have a large standard exo Terra faun with 1 hide, water bowl, a treated self-prepared twig going across the length (referred to the D.I.Y section) and a thermostat.. And it already looks jam packed! I really need a thermostat and hide in the cool side but simply cannot fit it in.. Hence one of the reasons I asked about getting a viv..

Lowestoft, Suffolk

Hunter - Jungle Carpet Python
3 Corn Snakes
Murphy - Black Labrador [ R.I.P ;( ]
Meg - Black Labrador
Rhea - Sprocker Spaniel
Jack - Rotty / Labrador
Trigger - Tabby Cat
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  20:54:56  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My set ups don't look too bad, all 3 have a snake cave in the cold end, hide out cave in the warm end, medium water bowl a plant and a vine.

I also put a toilet paper tube in my candycanes tank since he is so tiny i thought it might feel more cosy than the two caves which even though are small, are huge compared to him.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  20:58:05  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jbarnes92

No I mean the faun itself, I have a large standard exo Terra faun with 1 hide, water bowl, a treated self-prepared twig going across the length (referred to the D.I.Y section) and a thermostat.. And it already looks jam packed! I really need a thermostat and hide in the cool side but simply cannot fit it in.. Hence one of the reasons I asked about getting a viv..




There is no need for a thermostat in the cold end... Do you mean a thermometer? I have a dial thermometer which i got with the tanks in the cold end, i don't really feel the need for it if im honest, it stays around 20 degrees which is good enough. I'll know if the cold end of the tank is too cold because my bedroom would also be cold.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  20:58:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thermostat doesn't need to go IN your faun, only the probe, unless I've misunderstood what you wrote

9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/
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jbarnes92
Egg

United Kingdom
65 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  21:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I meant a thermometer, what a doughnut! I was using Aspen which caused temp problems so I changed to wood chippings and it made a whole lot of difference! The Aspen wasn that thick (about 3/4 of an inch) and the the small heat mat produced about 21C and she burrowed to the mat, so I done my research and put wood chippings in where the heat mat penetrates it a little easier and now it's perfect at about 28C and about 24C at night, suppose I could just put the thermometer in the cold end for a day and check the temp rather than buying one!

Lowestoft, Suffolk

Hunter - Jungle Carpet Python
3 Corn Snakes
Murphy - Black Labrador [ R.I.P ;( ]
Meg - Black Labrador
Rhea - Sprocker Spaniel
Jack - Rotty / Labrador
Trigger - Tabby Cat
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2010 :  21:11:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are pretty cheap of ebay, and all you need to do is thread the probe into the faun and leave the actual body of the therm with the screen on the outside.

9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/
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n/a
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378 Posts

Posted - 15/02/2010 :  00:00:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the kind of thing Sexy Bear is suggesting:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Aquarium-LCD-Digital-Thermometer-Fish-Tank-Water_W0QQitemZ230427279657QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Pet_Supplies_Fish?hash=item35a6894129

I have ordered these before (you can get same ones as these a bit cheaper from Hong Kong but they can take a while getting here) and they work great. And I'm yet to replace the batteries; unlike my ExoTerras!



0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
1.0.0 Cat- Ned

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n/a
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352 Posts

Posted - 15/02/2010 :  06:45:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The people in this forum will tell you that the length of your snake should be the length of the viv plus one width. My first viv for Snickers was a beginners setup and it was 20 inches long. When I first started using it she was about 11 inches long and it took her a while to start climbing around on stuff. They do prefer much smaller spaces. I bought a large viv for Snickers this time because I didn't want to buy an in between size. She is 33 inches long now and the viv is 3' 3" long. I've got it well furnished and she still remains hidden much more than she did in the smaller viv. The only time she comes out is when I take her out. In the smaller viv, she was much more active. At 13 inches, your baby does not need a lot of room to be happy. Even with "packing it out" they still aren't really happy in an oversized viv. [quote]Originally posted by jbarnes92

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