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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/02/2010 : 12:04:33
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ive only been back a while and read alot about post counting and how its not to be done. well ive noticed tht when people ask a question a lot of replies are a long the lines of "im sorry i cant help you" or "im new to snakes, someone else will help you" im wondering if this is post counting in your eyes and if it isnt then i still think it is inconsiderate and really not helpful in the slightest.
the one i just read was a pretty serious topic (not mentioning any specific details incase it causes problems) and the first reply was a long the lines "i cant help, but someone will" if i was the OP and i saw someone had replied to my post and i read that i would be pretty put off asking again. people already know that members here will answer questions and dont need to be told over and over again.
im sorry if im making a mountian out of a molehill here but it happened to me when i was in dire need of help and to be truthful it really wound me up, and i was a memeber for a while by this point so i honestly dont know how a newbie would feel.
feel free to email me if it will cause less problems
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sexychef
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
937 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2010 : 12:32:16
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post counting. example above could be post counting. unless we can see it being used as free bump for an important topic.
or starting/creating spam topics.
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2010 : 17:27:37
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i can see you point Brookie and i've wondered about it myself..............
the only benefit i can see with replying 'i can't help you but sit tight' is that the thread's OP knows they're not being ignored? although yes i agree in every other respect it's pretty pointless. |
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 18:37:20
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Originally posted by Brookestar
ive only been back a while and read alot about post counting and how its not to be done. well ive noticed tht when people ask a question a lot of replies are a long the lines of "im sorry i cant help you" or "im new to snakes, someone else will help you" im wondering if this is post counting in your eyes and if it isnt then i still think it is inconsiderate and really not helpful in the slightest.
the one i just read was a pretty serious topic (not mentioning any specific details incase it causes problems) and the first reply was a long the lines "i cant help, but someone will" if i was the OP and i saw someone had replied to my post and i read that i would be pretty put off asking again. people already know that members here will answer questions and dont need to be told over and over again.
im sorry if im making a mountian out of a molehill here but it happened to me when i was in dire need of help and to be truthful it really wound me up, and i was a memeber for a while by this point so i honestly dont know how a newbie would feel.
feel free to email me if it will cause less problems
Brookestar
If you are referring to this one
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8160
Then No- Clearly my posts didnt help and I cannot offer advice- However while reading through it I thought to my self...-... IF I HAD posted that and 3 hours later I hadnt had a reply I would have been frantic with worry and quite probably sick from stress (I am on some pretty powerful tablets) AND from being a new snake owner.
I Can See Your point of view Brookestar and I do understand that you do not see this as being helpful and infact view it as pointless However- FROM a new snake owners point of view- and from My point of view - AND this has happened to me- I have posted in the past and come back to the post 30 mins later and had 10-15 views but NO reply until someone DID post- and simply to say "I Cant help but someone Who Can should be along pretty shortly to..." and that on its own can start to calm you down- because at least someone who has read has replied- so you dont feel ignored.- Its nice to know that someone is willing to reply!
I Do Not and Will Not post for the sake of posting to "Get my score up"- I post when I have something to say.
If the general view of the Forum users comes back to the pointlessness of this then I am quite happy to stop.
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 18:41:14
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what do you gain from a high post count? i don't understand why anyone would post a reply just to raise their number.
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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2361 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2010 : 19:00:02
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it means nothing. i have 2123 posts and still consider myself a newbie compared to a lot of people on here. its not tht people post to up the count thats the problem its just the total uselessness of it.
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 19:22:44
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post counts mean nothing, and tbh i think they're a pointless feature of forums. TBH I don't think theres anyone on here who constantly posts inanepoopjust for the sake of posting - theres the odd post here and there but everyone is guilty of doing that.
Just lately I've seen a few people getting all worked up about 'post counting' which seems to have left a few sour feelings around the place, which i think is a real shame because this place is one of the friendliest forums around and this is the kind of rubbish thats not needed here.
If people enjoy a good bitching then go post on the Dark Side, thats what thats there for  |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2010 : 21:44:43
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Originally posted by Skorps
IF I HAD posted that and 3 hours later I hadnt had a reply I would have been frantic with worry...
that was what i was meaning with my earlier post hun  |
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Lewy
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 22:12:58
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Originally posted by eeji
post counts mean nothing, and tbh i think they're a pointless feature of forums. TBH I don't think theres anyone on here who constantly posts inanepoopjust for the sake of posting - theres the odd post here and there but everyone is guilty of doing that.
Just lately I've seen a few people getting all worked up about 'post counting' which seems to have left a few sour feelings around the place, which i think is a real shame because this place is one of the friendliest forums around and this is the kind of rubbish thats not needed here.
If people enjoy a good bitching then go post on the Dark Side, thats what thats there for
Completely agree with you Ian. I try to keep this place as relaxed and as friendly as possible, I'm sure all the mods do the same. I know there aren't many rules on here and I like to keep it that way, although every now and then you get a member who tries to bend them to breaking point. I know the sour taste you refer to and am disappointed it even got that far. You'll know yourself how hard it is to stop arguments breaking out on a forum, especially when it gets so big. I just hope this place stays as friendly as it always has been.
Maybe the post hierarchy system is something we need to lose from the forums for the better?
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2010 : 22:25:45
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Originally posted by Lewy
Maybe the post hierarchy system is something we need to lose from the forums for the better?
i can kinda see where you're coming from Lewy BUT..............
from a newbie's point of view, if they post a question and there's 2 conflicting replies are you more likely to listen to somebody that shows expeience or another newbie?
i'm not saying all noobs are new to keeping snakes or that all the members that post a lot really know what they're on about BUT it does act as a guide for the uninitiated, at least till they can find out more...............dunno, what do you think? |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 23:26:54
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Originally posted by gingerpony
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Originally posted by Lewy
Maybe the post hierarchy system is something we need to lose from the forums for the better?
i'm not saying all noobs are new to keeping snakes or that all the members that post a lot really know what they're on about BUT it does act as a guide for the uninitiated, at least till they can find out more...............dunno, what do you think?
GP does make a good point. It can come in handy for people who are new to the site. |
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
3348 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2010 : 23:38:36
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 07:11:23
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I do agree with Brookestar regarding some posts....but will say that the post Skorps made was a good post, one that was needed to reassure the OP and I think she did well to notice that it had been 3 hours and no proper answer had been given yet as no-one with the real experience had had the chance to read it yet.
I just wish that anyone who posts would think twice before they do it....are they doing it to give an answer to a question, to back up and add info to already supplied info or to give reassurance (as in Skorps case)...then that is good. But are they doing it just to repeat already given info, just to say something or just to up their post count so they can change from an egg to a hatchling etc...then dont do it.
PLEASE...just stop and think. This forum is for help, advice and support. It doesnt need cluttering up with anything else. I dont think there is much of that going on, but I do think it needs keeping an eye on and it is up to the posters themselves to regulate, it is not really down to the mods. The last thing wanted is the bad feeling that can be caused and the results that can come from it if action needs to be taken.
Just my opinion of course.
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 07:14:56
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Originally posted by gingerpony
i can kinda see where you're coming from Lewy BUT..............
from a newbie's point of view, if they post a question and there's 2 conflicting replies are you more likely to listen to somebody that shows expeience or another newbie?
i'm not saying all noobs are new to keeping snakes or that all the members that post a lot really know what they're on about BUT it does act as a guide for the uninitiated, at least till they can find out more...............dunno, what do you think?
If that's the case, then you must be aware the a moderator's star carries even more weight, on the assumption that a moderator would know more about snakes than regular forum members.
So from a newbie's point of view, if they post a question and there's 2 conflicting replies are you more likely to listen to somebody that posts with a mod star or another member?
I would therefore say that if the first concern here is to make sure that newbies don't get confused, I'd first of all take care to see that those with a mod star really are those who know best, then I'd probably ask the membership that if they are giving advice that is not based on their own knowledge but on what they have read here in the past, please state that. This way a newbie, or anyone else, can differentiate between replies that come from actual knowledge based on experience and/or education, and replies that only perpetuate what the person replying has read on the forum. The latter may contain errors that would be then perpetuated without the person making the reply knowing, having not seen/experienced it for himself.
Btw, I agree with Brookestar regarding pointless responses that just clog the forums. Sometimes it's really hard to get through a thread and find the actual data, having first to wade through "I don't know, but hey, good luck to you" or "I have no idea, but I hope someone here will tell you." I know for a fact people do post sometimes for the sake of the post-count. For instance, I was once in the group chat when someone said something along the lines of, "Oh, I'm really close to my next star!" and then a few moments later, "I went to the photos section and responded to some of the pictures there until I got my next star, I am now a (whatever it was) yay!"
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 10:59:21
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Originally posted by Hawkeye
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Originally posted by gingerpony
......i'm not saying all noobs are new to keeping snakes or that all the members that post a lot really know what they're on about BUT it does act as a guide for the uninitiated.............
If that's the case, then you must be aware the a moderator's star carries even more weight, on the assumption that a moderator would know more about snakes than regular forum members......
Surely that was covered in GP's response.
In regards useless posts, I think I probably have about 300 that are simply the words "OOOH, Wants!".
Sometimes posts like that can't be helped, and posts similar to 'I can't help but someone will be along shortly' are useful IMO because as said above it's a bit disheartening when you have a question and it has had 20 views but no responses.
I'm also not saying it's totally OK, otherwise we're just gonna end up with 3 million posts saying the same quote.
The things I regard as useless posts are the ones where people answer a question after it's already been answered about 5 times.
The same thing could be said about double posting, that irritates the hell out of me, people should just use the 'edit post' function.
We're all aware that sometimes you can't edit the first post so people have no choice but to double post but I've lost count of the amount of times the second post on a thread starts with them saying they can't edit the post.
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 12:35:48
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