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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  20:27:32  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm still working through setting up Alice's new viv. The new heat mat came today so I thought i would set to fitting it in. Came across 2 potential problems i need comments on please.

How do i get the heatmat wired up in the viv? there is only a small hole for cables, and the heatmat and plug are too big to get through (sorry for stating the obvious). Am I ok to take the plug off the heatmat and then rewire it after feeding the cable through the hole? And what is the best way to make the cable holes a bit bigger cos my therm and stat probes wont fit through. Thinking i should have put everything in before putting the lid on lol.

Also during some kind of blonde moment I bought self adhesive vinyl tiles for putting over the heatmat. Will these still be ok? Is there a danger snakey could get stuck in some way? (stupid question knowing what nosey beggars snakes are). Is there someway to modify them so they can still be used or shall I just go out and get some more plain vinyl tiles tomorrow?

Sorry for waffling, having a bit of a hissy fit lol. ideas will be greatfully received

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  20:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i put my mat and stat in before i put the back in place when building my vivs but i know some people on here do take the plugs apart and then rewire them once they have poked the bits through.. personally i couldnt do that as id no doubt electrocute myself somehow lmao!
and the self adhesive vinyl.. its up to you..you can put them down and then seal the edges down with sealant so that alice cant get a corner up or something or go out and get other ones and then seal them down anyway.. its up to you

hope this helps


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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  20:31:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take off the plug and rewire it, thats what I do!!

I wouldnt risk the sticky tile in the viv, just in case. I know there is a lot of people on here at the moment that seem to be doing this but it really isn't necessary if your mat is correctly statted. If you are adamant you want one though, a cheap plain one will be fine.

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Fal
Hatchling

United Kingdom
245 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  20:34:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately, I can't answer either question, sorry!!! However, I'm glad you are posting these questions, because I can imagine it is something I would be asking in future, now I won't have to :) hehe..

Good luck with it!
Jonathan


Corn Snake - Bella. Bearded Dragon - Draco. Leopard Gecko - Mojo. Cat - Neo. In our family we also have: Cali King Snake, Spiny Flower Mantis (RIP), African Lined Mantis (RIP), Ghost Mantis (RIP), four Hermit Crabs, a Budgy and a Dog - Mystie... oh and a YAMAHA YZF-R1 but she's feeling a bit neglected at the moment :(
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  22:08:14  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yep, cut the plug off, though a lot of things come with moulded plugs these days so you'll have to buy another plug to fit on the cable, they're usually about £1 ish

as for the stat probe it depends what sort of viv you have, wooden ones you can get a tapered circular file to enlarge the hole, or if it's a plastic faun/RUB lid you need to feed it through just go carefully at it with either a circular file or a sharp knife

TBH i'd set it up, jiggle it to get it running at the right temp with the electrical/probe leads coming out the front/top until you get sorted with bigger holes and another plug, then at least you know when you've got those bits sorted all you need to do is switch it on and let it get up to temp and not have all the fiddling about to do

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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  23:18:19  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks peeps. feel a bit better now. The plug isn't moulded so will take it apart and feed the cable through. Will leave it running for a couple of days before putting Alice in to make sure everything is ok.

Don't worry Fal, I have lots of blonde moments so i'm sure there will be plenty more questions where these came from. The good thing about this site is that no-one is patronising or makes you feel stupid. Just good advise to help you make the right decisions

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0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
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LittleMick
Yearling

United Kingdom
563 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2010 :  23:50:18  Show Profile  Visit LittleMick's Homepage  Click to see LittleMick's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
For my Leopard Gecko setup I just removed the plugs on anything and rewire. The sta prob I just drilled a bigger hole, and to stop feeders (crickets) escaping I taped some paper towel round the stat wire and jammed that in the hole. Lol. I also did the taped paper towel thing on Elijah's (Corn) faun, as he was only a hatchling and could easily escape out the massive hole.


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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  23:58:22  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'd definetly leave out the sticky tile, its just not worth the risks


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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2010 :  02:25:44  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

i'd definetly leave out the sticky tile, its just not worth the risks



I use sticky tile inside one of my glass vivs, with NOTHING under it, and it's ok.
But the same sticky tiles in the wooden viv on top of a heat mat took the best part of about 10 mins before the heat caused the stickiness to soften and lift up a bit which enabled one of my snakes to get under it.
It's not the easiest thing to sort out.

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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
5491 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2010 :  06:19:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

quote:
Originally posted by eeji

i'd definetly leave out the sticky tile, its just not worth the risks



I use sticky tile inside one of my glass vivs, with NOTHING under it, and it's ok.
But the same sticky tiles in the wooden viv on top of a heat mat took the best part of about 10 mins before the heat caused the stickiness to soften and lift up a bit which enabled one of my snakes to get under it.
It's not the easiest thing to sort out.



could you not seal the edges down to prevent that?
it appears i was wrong about the sticky tile OP, apolagies


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Kehhlyr
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/02/2010 :  10:37:53  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HannahB


....it appears i was wrong about the sticky tile OP, apolagies



You weren't wrong at all, I think the sticky tiles are brilliant, but they can lift if they are over the top of a heat mat so a bit of care is needed, which is why sealing them as you suggested is a sensible thing to do.


My ones that are still well and truely stuck down are in the bottom of a glass viv and the heatmat goes under the viv.
The glue on the tiles still softens, but it doesn't lift up. The only reason I found mine lifted up if because the mats don't go totally flat the little black plastic connector raises them slightly which is enough to run the risk or have problems inside the viv.


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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2010 :  21:41:11  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HannahB
it appears i was wrong about the sticky tile OP, apolagies

it's just people's opinions and preferences and their own reasons to do something or to not to hun so don't worry, like i said i don't cover my mats with anything at all cos in my eyes if its controlled with a stat it won't damage the snake............there's more than one way to skin a cat

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