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Posted - 16/01/2010 :  11:32:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have a 2 and a half year old animal , he has always been healthy with a good appetite , but hes not eaten for five weeks now and is pale , the vet exrayed him last week ( nothing found ) and gave him
antibiotics , getting very worried now does anyone have any ideas ?

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Posted - 16/01/2010 :  12:16:46  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
what did the vet advise/diagnose?

this time of year it's not uncommon for them to not feed for a couple of months, especially if they're reaching sexual maturity.

did the vet prescribe oral Baytril to be given at home or was it injections or another medication? and did the vet say WHY they'd prescribed antibiotics? and is the vet a specialist exotics vet or your local 'smallies' practice?

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Posted - 16/01/2010 :  13:02:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

what did the vet advise/diagnose?

this time of year it's not uncommon for them to not feed for a couple of months, especially if they're reaching sexual maturity.

did the vet prescribe oral Baytril to be given at home or was it injections or another medication? and did the vet say WHY they'd prescribed antibiotics? and is the vet a specialist exotics vet or your local 'smallies' practice?


Thanks for the info , the vet is a small animal specialist with some reptile knowlage , she examined him and ex rayed him and could not
find anything wrong , the antibiotic injection was a precaution she
said , he has been active and drinking but is now very quiet and pale

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gingerpony
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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  21:26:17  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i can understand them giving ABx as a precaution but it's never helpful when you're not given an actual diagnosis...........

what are your warm and cold end temps like?
how is the viv heated and the heat controlled?
how does he appear pale? ie. his colouring all over or inside his mouth?
was he previously a good feeder?

sorry for all the questions but the answers help

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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  13:46:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by gingerpony

i can understand them giving ABx as a precaution but it's never helpful when you're not given an actual diagnosis...........

what are your warm and cold end temps like?
how is the viv heated and the heat controlled?
how does he appear pale? ie. his colouring all over or inside his mouth?
was he previously a good feeder?

sorry for all the questions but the answers help
Thanks for the help , sorry for the delay getting back

Hot and cool end temps are within range
heating is through heat mat
He shed last week and then became very active ( and still is )
He has been a good feeder before this , regular as clockwork
He looks very healthy now

Thanks again for taking the time to help us/quote]
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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  14:30:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doesn't sound too serious, but its along time to miss feeds.

Have you tried braining him (exposing brain matter of pinkies/mice etc)?


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SexyBear77
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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  16:45:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
5 weeks isn't a long time at all, one of the members on here had a corn that went 13 weeks without eating!

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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  16:48:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow...
Thats insane.
Was it breeding season?

That really is a long time lol.


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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  16:59:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah it was over the winter with an adult male who was in the mood for love lol. He dropped very little weight actually over that time, which is surprising.

It was Judith's snake Kellog, I'm sure you could find the story in the search bit.

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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  17:15:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What temperature is the actual warm and cool side?
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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  17:16:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You'll find when they reach maturity it is not uncommon for either sex to go off food during the spring.
My male regularly goes 15 weeks a year without food from mid march to July while he's busy thinking about other things. My female will be reaching 3 this year and has just the past few weeks gone from being a regular eater that would eat anything given to refusing the second of 2 mice and then last week refusing anything at all.
Adults can generally go about 6 months without food provided there is fresh water available. They will also generally keep up their own weight if it due to breeding season as well.
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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  21:53:31  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Oakey

Wow...
Thats insane.
Was it breeding season?

That really is a long time lol.


like others have said, it's really NOT a long time.............

one of my boas ate 4 times in the whole of 2008 with his previous owner...........yes, doing the maths it averages out at every 4 months..........or 16 weeks.........

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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  22:00:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Oakey


That really is a long time lol.



one of my little uns is a non feeder - since august shes only eaten 2 small bits of mouse tail - one being tonight - and a small piece of pinkie - the other bit of tail and pinkie were assist fed back in october and before then she had never eaten..


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Posted - 24/01/2010 :  22:44:34  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hillzi

What temperature is the actual warm and cool side?


good call hillzi hun

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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  03:03:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HannahB


one of my little uns is a non feeder - since august shes only eaten 2 small bits of mouse tail - one being tonight - and a small piece of pinkie - the other bit of tail and pinkie were assist fed back in october and before then she had never eaten..




Aww...
I'm glad she's coming along though


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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  16:37:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There was an article in PRK- not the last one with GALS but the one before about snakes with anorexia - non feeders- and Im pretty sure in the article it said that snakes can easily go up to 5 months without eating!- If Slinx did that I would have no hair/fingernails/weight left myself just through the stress!

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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  17:08:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So how long before permanent damage is done?

Or does this depend on size of snake?


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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  17:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Oakey

So how long before permanent damage is done?

Or does this depend on size of snake?



Months and months. Though if it is a skinny snake to start with obviously it will find it harder to maintain a healthy weight.

Because snakes are cold blooded it is possible for them to slow their metabolism right down, unlike a mammal or bird which would have to eat far more regularly.

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hillzi
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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  18:13:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is this animal actually a snake? it could be a cat or something Nowheres stated he's a snake and everyone jumped to the conclusion.





Yes I'm quite efficient at reading between the lines but just wanted to make sure!!
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SexyBear77
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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  18:18:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hillzi

Is this animal actually a snake? it could be a cat or something Nowheres stated he's a snake and everyone jumped to the conclusion.




Lol I hope its not a cat or dog- us lot all saying "don't worry that it hasn't fed for weeks and weeks..."

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Posted - 25/01/2010 :  23:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
as said, really need to know what temps are, they mmight be in 'range' for what a pet shop has said, but to be honest, i wouldnt pay money for what most petshops have told me. also, i didnt see any mention of a thermostat on the heatmat? if you dont have one, its a worthwhile investment for the safety of your snake, assuming it is actually a snake, and a cornsnake at that! What others have said is absolutely right, i havent fed most of my corns now since beginning of november, and they are fine, albeit cold!
From what you have mentioned, its sound like the snake being pale would be him coming into shed, i cant see how else they can be pale!
hopefully feeding wont be a problem in the future, but as with most corns, it generally isnt! good luck

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