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reptiledanny
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  18:28:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wat can i breed with butter apart from an amel het caramel and caramel het amel to get some stunning morphs. isn't butter a morph that if het stands out in the morphs. can you get het butter?


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Blackecho
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  19:04:59  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
You can't get het Butter as Butter isn't a base morph, you could have het Amel, het Caramel which is basically the same thing.

Amel and Caramel are recessive, so if you want any visual morphs from a first breeding it would need to be bred to something containing at least one of them.



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reptiledanny
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  19:07:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i am planning on getting a butter male and then getting an amel stripe female het for caramel so hopefully i will get butter babies. just wanted to know was there any oter morph apart from the two i mensioned that would get me some other morphs. the only other one i can think of and find id the hypo butter, breeding a hypo to a butter.


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hillzi
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  19:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not as a genetic god as BE, but maybe butter stripe offspring or have hets for stripe?
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eeji
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  23:38:24  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if you get a butter, theres two easy options for you to get F1 morphs:

butter x ultramel het caramel =
25% amel het caramel
25% ultramel het caramel
25% butter
25% golddust

or:
butter x golddust =
50% butter
50% golddust

Two harder options (ie. harder to find and more expensive):

Ultra het caramel x Butter =
50% Ultramel het caramel
50% Golddust

Ultra Caramel x Butter = 100% Golddust


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Blackecho
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Posted - 14/12/2009 :  07:07:24  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well played Ian, I leave the Ultra route alone, confuses too many Corn people



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reptiledanny
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Posted - 14/12/2009 :  17:02:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

if you get a butter, theres two easy options for you to get F1 morphs:

butter x ultramel het caramel =
25% amel het caramel
25% ultramel het caramel
25% butter
25% golddust

or:
butter x golddust =
50% butter
50% golddust

Two harder options (ie. harder to find and more expensive):

Ultra het caramel x Butter =
50% Ultramel het caramel
50% Golddust

Ultra Caramel x Butter = 100% Golddust



this reall helps. i will maybe get and ultramel as well then. so the ultramel will produce amels, ultramels, butters and goldusts. that is awsome. i will be getting one of them. but goldust needs ultramel and caramel. so how would butter and ultramel het car produce goldusts. so i am gunna hopefully get a butter motley/stripe and a female ultramel stripe het for caramel. how much would you say a butter motley/stripe would cost (male if that makes any difference) and how much would an ultramel stripe het caramel (female)


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eeji
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Posted - 14/12/2009 :  22:30:17  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ultramel stripe het caramel would cost quite a lot, mainly because its homo stripe and thats what most people seem to be wanting lately.

quote:
.......so the ultramel will produce amels, ultramels, butters and goldusts........


only if its het caramel. an ultramel NOT het caramel bred with a butter will give you ultramel and amels


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reptiledanny
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Posted - 19/12/2009 :  12:55:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
k. i am getting the butter male and hopefully if parents allow i will get a female amel stripe het for caramel and either ultramel het for caramel or caramel motley stripe het amel stripe.


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Ok so heres a bit of match making. Im torn as to what to put with what. I have an ice,a goldust, a ghost and a diffused nlood red. All males. Then a hypomel, a butter, a amel stripe and a few normal and anery females. What should i put with with what i got ideas but after a few opinions
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