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reptiledanny
Sub Adult

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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  17:19:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if i get a butter motley/stripe wat should i breed to it to get butter babies. someone sed amel het caramel or caramle het amel. what is it. plus apparently these are expensive.

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hillzi
The Lost boy.

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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  17:40:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you should focus on finding Monty first though before you get another snake if you plan to breed now, or just a question for future ference which this maybe, then fine.

Butter isn't a morph, probably caramel het amel.. but not so sure.

Butter motleys normally about.. £55. but not sure on a visual caramel, £40 - 50 maybe.

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Blackecho
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  18:21:38  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Butter is a morph, its a combination of Caramel and Amel. For you to get any Butter hatchlings, both parents would need to have both Amel and Caramel, such as another Butter.



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hillzi
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  18:38:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, gotchya.
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reptiledanny
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  19:08:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hillzi

I think you should focus on finding Monty first though before you get another snake if you plan to breed now, or just a question for future ference which this maybe, then fine.

Butter isn't a morph, probably caramel het amel.. but not so sure.

Butter motleys normally about.. £55. but not sure on a visual caramel, £40 - 50 maybe.





it was just for future preferences. i am not getting another corn untill i find mmonty really. did have my eye on another corn before monty disapeared but know i am focusing on monty unless mum says to me do i want it. its a butter and just wanted to know wat to breed to it to get butter babies. sue sed that i should either get a caramle het amel or amel het caramel. i want an amel so i would have to get and amel het caramel. is thatk. if i breed a butter motley/stripe to an amel stripe het caramel would i get butter babies, along with amel babies and caramel babies.


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reptiledanny
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  19:53:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mods, can you move this too the breeding section as i think it belongs there?


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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  22:41:47  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
you'd need any of these:

Butter
Amel het caramel
Caramel het amel

if you go for the butter, then you'll get ALL butter babies, and either of the other 2 then each egg has a 50% chance of hatching out as butter


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KITTYCAT
Hatchling

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Posted - 09/12/2009 :  01:24:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
R Danny i would just consentrate of what youve got your only young breeding corns isnt easy it takes alot of work though i gateher you are comitited to your love of snakes but mind the age rule 3yrs 3oograms dont fall into the trap that i did though the snakes are okay do all your reaserch first.

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 09/12/2009 :  17:26:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no i wasn't thinking of breeeding any time soon. i am hoping to get anither male and then a female so wanted to get ready. i found a male butter that i really like and wanted to know wat i would need to get butter babies. i want to get them as babies and know the 3 rule. 3 years, 300 grams and wat is the other 3? just wanted to know wat female to get. i wanted an amel stripe but wanted to know wat het it should be. het caramel. not any plans of breeing until 3 years time.


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KITTYCAT
Hatchling

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Posted - 09/12/2009 :  23:17:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
glad to see your being responsible wish you all the luck just stick to the rule.

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 10/12/2009 :  10:55:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wAt is the 3 rule, 3 years, 300 grams and wats the other one. is it 3 ft. i think thats a but small so i didn't think that was it but wats the 3rd rule.


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gingerpony
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Posted - 10/12/2009 :  13:22:05  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yes 300g, 3 years old and 3ft long as a safe MINIMUM.......

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 10/12/2009 :  13:54:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3ft seems a bit small as corns can easily reach that. i have a 1.5 year old corn that 30 inches, he has escapes and i was just about to move him onto hoppers but anyway he was 30 inches and 1 year old.


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gingerpony
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Posted - 10/12/2009 :  14:09:18  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
but it wasn't 3 years old or 300g.............so it wasn't at the recommended minimum requirements..........so too small to breed..........

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hiper2009
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Posted - 11/12/2009 :  16:08:34  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Agree with GP

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1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
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reptiledanny
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Posted - 11/12/2009 :  18:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh ye i now that i wasn't guna breed him til atleast 3 years old. but i was just sayin 3 ft a bit small for a 3 year old corn that is 300g.


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gingerpony
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Posted - 12/12/2009 :  22:15:14  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it is a MINIMUM requirement...........

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reptiledanny
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  08:04:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok. have you ever seen a corn so small that is 3 years old and 300g.it would have to be muscley corn to be 3ft and 300 g. maybe fat corn.


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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  10:08:55  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
don't forget that all corns grow at differing rates ;)


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reptiledanny
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Posted - 13/12/2009 :  11:58:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
true ye, so you could, nice. i get it. thats just the rule. but they all have to be there. you can't have a snake that is 2 years old but 300g+ and 3ft+ can you and breed him.


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gingerpony
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Posted - 19/12/2009 :  21:20:46  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
just take the advice or not...........

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