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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 15:52:26
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Just a quick question:-
I have always fed my snake in the viv, and apart from him refusing mice about 3 times in 6 years, I have never had any trouble with him eating. It's only from reading the forum that I discovered most people feed their snakes in feeding tubs, etc.
Do you think I should continue feeding in the viv - after all, it's what he's used to and I don't have any problems, or do you think I should start feeding him elsewhere? |
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 16:14:38
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As long as you feed over a piece of kitchen roll or a dish/plate of some kind so that substrate is not ingested along with the mouse, and if the snake in question does not show and aggression (because he associates you with food) when you enter the viv to do routine maintenance then i would not change how you do things.
There is really no point rocking the boat if the above is taken care of. |
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 17:21:28
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as bio said,i would keep it the same now |
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reptiledanny
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 17:52:08
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iv always fed in the viv aswell, also without any thing underneath cuz he eats his on his branch or log. he has never gor substrate on his food without me being there and taking it off. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 18:31:15
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Impaction (when snake swallows substrate) is incredibly hard to fix, depending on substrate swallowed and snakes size, it may not be able to be corrected.
Why I have newspaper substrate, it's not able to be swallowed. However Blaze has chippings, so a dish or kitchen roll is essential..
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 19:33:23
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we always feed in a tub as my little one likes to drag his food around but so long as you watch no substrate goes down with the mouse then dont see it bein a problem xx |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 20:17:53
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as well as the possibility of ingesting substrate there is the potential for your snake to think you're a mouse when you put your hand in the viv.........and get tagged! for these reasons combined is why people often feed in tubs/RUBS, as well as being able to monitor feeding responses, photographs them better, and for a shy feeder being able to leave them undisturbed and covered over.
i feed my corns out of their vivs despite using newspaper as substrate which has no risk of ingestion. i usually do a full clean while they're out. |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/12/2009 : 03:19:31
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When I first got Kellog (just over 4yrs old) back in April he went on a 13 week fast (and the forum kept me sane while I drove them mad!). I offered him food as he had been fed, every 5 days...in the viv...dangling mouse...then leaving it in overnight. You can imagine the surprise/excitement/shock when I went through the normal morning routine and suddenly he struck! He has eaten ever since, but because of this previous non-feeding I continued to do it as before, in the viv. But after being on the forum I knew the dangers of feeding inside the viv. I decided recently that it wasnt worth the risk so took the chance of feeding him outside the viv. Laid a towel on the floor...put Kellog on it...dangled mouse...and immediate strike and feed with no problem. (there is a video of his 2nd outside of viv feed in video section)I then leave him until the bump is almost in the middle, then lift him gently back into the viv. I am so glad I am doing this cos it has reduced my worry about impaction (was never worried about Kellog mistaking my hand for dinner). What I am getting at it that at the age of 4 Kellog has changed from feeding in the viv to out without a problem.
It may be worth at least trying to see how your snake responds. If it doesnt like it, then return to feeding in the viv but with the precautions suggested.
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/12/2009 : 22:07:48
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when i was getting my royal feeding last year, i'd only ever attempt a feed in the viv as they're so shy and stressy, so this can suit some snakes, at least while you're getting them going. i do the same with my middle Dumerils boa now. i just had/have them on paper while i'm using this approach so there's no risk of ingestion.
and on the other hand with my big Dumerils boa, if she's got a sniff of mice/rats defrosting or being heated up there's no way i'm putting my hand in her viv to get her out and tub her!!! |
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Posted - 04/12/2009 : 21:43:31
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Haha - don't blame you!! Thanks all - great advice. |
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Nazzle
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/12/2009 : 17:20:59
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My Royal feeds outside the viv no probs, but whatever I try the corn won't. Suppose it depends on the snake. |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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CAL
Hatchling
United Kingdom
146 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2009 : 22:11:12
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quote: Originally posted by Prudence
Just a quick question:-
I have always fed my snake in the viv, and apart from him refusing mice about 3 times in 6 years, I have never had any trouble with him eating. It's only from reading the forum that I discovered most people feed their snakes in feeding tubs, etc.
Do you think I should continue feeding in the viv - after all, it's what he's used to and I don't have any problems, or do you think I should start feeding him elsewhere?
I've always fed in the viv. I'm careful to place the mouse on something other than the bark. I had never heard about feeding out of the viv until I read it on here. I've never had any issues and Monty's happy so I still feed in the viv. |
0.0.1 Cornsnake: Monty, 10 years old, 5ft 3".
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 21:08:22
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i feed both mine on my double bed i get an old towel and do it on there |
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LittleMick
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 22:10:47
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I feed Elijah both in and out of the viv. Just depends on what day his feed day falls on. If it's during the week I feed him in his viv on a large feeding dish. If it is at the weekend I feed him in a seperate box, on top of some scales so I can measure his weight at the same time. I also use this absence in the viv to have a clean out. I do it this way so he will grow up not having issues either way. |
0.4.0 Gerbils (Gemini, Pica, Gerty and Sasha) 0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Elle) 1.0.0 Carolina Corn Snake(Elijah) 0.0.1 Emperor/Imperial Scorpion (Abbi) 2.0.0 Roborovski Dwarf Hamsters (Micro & Chippy) Tropical fish - 6 Platys.6 Mollies.9 Glowlight Tetra.4 Pearl Gouramis.4 Apple Snails.1 Tiger Plec.2 Common Bristlenose Plecs and lots of babies. |
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