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lmfastcars
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19/11/2009 : 17:10:18
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Hey Everyone,
I posted a thread in Photos showing fluffy and he is a Creamsicle Corn Snake. People said that Creamsicle are hybirds and there a cross between corn snake and an emorys rat snake. Please can some explain more? and also if an emorys rat snake and a corn snake breed to make a Creamsicle corn snake, can any one tell me why the corn snake gene over powers the rat snake, so for instance why wouldnt it be a creamsicle rat snake or is it irelevent and you could call it what ever? any additoinal information to creamsicle corns and the way they are bred would be fabulous. |
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n/a
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 18:52:45
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There is really nothing more to explain, Creamsicles are a cross between a Corn Snake and a Great Plains Rat Snake (Pantherophis Emoryi). That is all, a cross in the same way as dogs have been cross bred.
The Corn Snake gene has not overpowered the Rat Snake gene... Another name for a Corn Snake (regardless of morph) is a Red Rat Snake... so in effect a Creamsicle is just a cross breed between two different Rat Snake species. You could very easily call it a Creamsicle Rat Snake if you liked, the same as this site could also be called The Red Rat Snake Forum. |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2009 : 18:54:37
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| Creamsicles are a cross between a corn and an emorys rat snake (Elaphe guttata guttata x emoryi) and they are always the pale, "soft" orange markings on a yellow or light orange background. I dont know why this is and I wont pretend to either, but I'm sure someone else will be along shortly to help. |
9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python
Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/ |
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lmfastcars
Hatchling
United Kingdom
360 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2009 : 19:19:14
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Originally posted by lmfastcars
Hey Everyone,
I posted a thread in Photos showing fluffy and he is a Creamsicle Corn Snake. People said that Creamsicle are hybirds and there a cross between corn snake and an emorys rat snake. Please can some explain more? and also if an emorys rat snake and a corn snake breed to make a Creamsicle corn snake, can any one tell me why the corn snake gene over powers the rat snake, so for instance why wouldnt it be a creamsicle rat snake or is it irelevent and you could call it what ever? any additoinal information to creamsicle corns and the way they are bred would be fabulous.
Thanks. I wasnt sure about that but i felt quite stupid asking that question becasue all of the facts were there really . Thanks everyone |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2009 : 19:33:21
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Originally posted by Bioshock
There is really nothing more to explain, Creamsicles are a cross between a Corn Snake and a Great Plains Rat Snake (Pantherophis Emoryi). That is all, a cross in the same way as dogs have been cross bred.
breeding dogs is differeent, 2 dog breeds will still be Canis lupus familiaris x C l familiaris so is comparable to breeding 2 different morphs of cornsnake - at the end you still get a cornsnake.
a Creamsicle is the result of breeding 2 different sub species, and is the amelanistic form so would need to inherit amel from both parents (P gutattus and P emoryi have compatible genes at the amelanistic locus), and the creamy colouring comes from the emoryi side.
The 'normal phase' of this hybrid is called Rootbeer |
Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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Gaz_1989
Yearling
United Kingdom
931 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2009 : 14:48:09
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Can people put there pics up of creamsicles? Would love to see more.
Thanks
Gaz |
0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter |
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lmfastcars
Hatchling
United Kingdom
360 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2009 : 15:01:39
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Originally posted by Gaz_1989
Can people put there pics up of creamsicles? Would love to see more.
Thanks
Gaz
If you havn't already, if you go into photos and click on the link that says Creamsicle 1 year old or the one with lmfastcars, alot of very considerate people have put pictures up on there :) there really good pictures just scroll down and i think there nearer the bottom!  |
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Gaz_1989
Yearling
United Kingdom
931 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2009 : 16:34:20
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| Thanks mate, will take a look. |
0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter |
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Zincubus
Hatchling
197 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 22:45:31
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I've just taken delivery of a Sunglow Corn snake but it looks just like a Creamsicle .
What are the visual / colour differences ?? |
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Zincubus
Hatchling
197 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 23:11:25
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I've just taken delivery of a Sunglow Corn snake but it looks just like a Creamsicle .
What are the visual / colour differences ?? |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
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Posted - 24/10/2012 : 07:41:57
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| This is exactly why I think breeders have more of a responsibility to label any hybrids clearly. Yes, it's up to the owners to do their own research too, but there are too many instances now of people now knowing what they're buying.. |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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