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Gaz_1989
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17/11/2009 : 08:58:08
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I have been on search engines etc doing alot of research on corns, and i am getting very conflicting information on Salmonella.
We are expecting our first child in february and i am just wondering if there is any HUGE problem with having a pet corn regards Salmonella?
Obviously i will be cautious, snake wont go near baby etc, handwashing goes without saying.
I assume some people on here must have snakes and babies?
Do you advise changing clothes after handling the corn? Before holding baby etc?
Do they carry Salmonella on the bodies? Or is it just in there digestive system?
Many Thanks
Gaz |
0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter |
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PunkAsF82
Yearling
United Kingdom
909 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 09:29:42
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They carry it on their skin. To me, cloth changing wouldn't really be necessary, as the only way you can really pick it up is if you were to lick the snake or stick it in your mouth or something  There's been medicinal journals that actually theories that increased exposure to Salmonella can actually increase your resistance. But again, unless you or the baby is gonna be chewing on it, I wouldn't worry much further than hand washing and common sense  |
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
8173 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 10:00:47
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Originally posted by PunkAsF82
.....as the only way you can really pick it up is if you were to lick the snake or stick it in your mouth or something ....
ooops, I regularly hold my snakes between my lips.
Then again, I've been doing that for as long as I've had snakes.
NOT good practice, so I wouldn't recommend it.
And I have to confess, I did lick one about a month ago, purely because I just wondered what they tasted like raw.
Before anyone asks, they didn't really have a taste. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 10:03:08
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Well put Punk. 
I have yet to get salmonella. Must have developed the natural immunities. I wouldn't worry if you always washed your hands before and after.
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Gaz_1989
Yearling
United Kingdom
931 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 10:53:51
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Okay thanks all,
My main concern was the baby rather than myself.
I was thinking about keeping a long sleeve top by the viv and having that as my 'handling top'. And taking that off after handling my snake etc.
Was just wondering how much of an issue the Salmonella was.
Thanks again
Gaz |
0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter |
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Mnementh
Yearling
United Kingdom
537 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 11:00:13
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
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Originally posted by PunkAsF82
.....as the only way you can really pick it up is if you were to lick the snake or stick it in your mouth or something ....
ooops, I regularly hold my snakes between my lips.
Then again, I've been doing that for as long as I've had snakes.
NOT good practice, so I wouldn't recommend it.
And I have to confess, I did lick one about a month ago, purely because I just wondered what they tasted like raw.
Before anyone asks, they didn't really have a taste.
LOL , Kehhlyr , weirdo
I use Matron so do all the kids , after every handling we put a few drops of this on , it's a bio handwash gel used against MRSA etc . I also have another hand hygiene lotion which is anti bacterial . If we have been feeding etc then it's wash hands and a drop of lotion . |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 11:11:55
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I know it may seem extreme but I do wonder if having a snake handling top is a good idea...considering how babies mouth against your clothes and dribble on them and are sick on them and suck on them (hope you are ready for all that!). Maybe do the top thing just until your little one old enough to be past the stage of mouthing on your clothes. Dont think it is really a problem but better to be safe than sorry.
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Gaz_1989
Yearling
United Kingdom
931 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 11:22:42
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Thanks Kellog,
Will deffo do the top thing. Like you say baby would be all over clothing etc.
Thanks
Gaz |
0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter |
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kizzig
Yearling
United Kingdom
560 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 12:45:19
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| We just use the alcohol gel before and after handling. In fact it's in my bag just now as we're moving a friends fully grown corn to her new house, so got the gel with me just in case! |
Kizzig
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1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
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0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 14:12:56
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| I have had snakes for 7 years, never had salmonella. As I once said in a previous post "the grubbier the better"- natural immunity developed by relaxed hygeine. |
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1.1 Hogg island boas
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 15:04:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr
quote:
Originally posted by PunkAsF82
.....as the only way you can really pick it up is if you were to lick the snake or stick it in your mouth or something ....
ooops, I regularly hold my snakes between my lips.
Then again, I've been doing that for as long as I've had snakes.
NOT good practice, so I wouldn't recommend it.
And I have to confess, I did lick one about a month ago, purely because I just wondered what they tasted like raw.
Before anyone asks, they didn't really have a taste.
Your'e wierer than I first assumed.
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Originally posted by SexyBear77
I have had snakes for 7 years, never had salmonella. As I once said in a previous post "the grubbier the better"- natural immunity developed by relaxed hygeine.
Struggled to say that!!
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
3348 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 17:32:21
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
5491 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 17:49:13
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i think as long as you are sensible about it and dont let baby grab anything that hasnt been cleaned after contact with a snake ect then you should be fine, a snake only top sounds like a good idea
good luck for when the little one does arrive |
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
8173 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 18:24:40
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Originally posted by SexyBear77
I have had snakes for 7 years, never had salmonella. As I once said in a previous post "the grubbier the better"- natural immunity developed by relaxed hygeine.
I'm similar.
I grew up near as damn it in a forest. Mum used to call us in, we'd brush the visible lord-knows-what of our hands, then eat.
Probably ingested a fair few bugs that way. Which I assume is what you meant by 'Natural immunity developed by relaxed hygiene' |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 18:29:10
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Salmonella lives in the gastrointestinal tracts...
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Originally posted by PunkAsF82
They carry it on their skin. To me, cloth changing wouldn't really be necessary, as the only way you can really pick it up is if you were to lick the snake or stick it in your mouth or something There's been medicinal journals that actually theories that increased exposure to Salmonella can actually increase your resistance. But again, unless you or the baby is gonna be chewing on it, I wouldn't worry much further than hand washing and common sense
do you have a source for this information? |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 17/11/2009 : 18:31:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77
I have had snakes for 7 years, never had salmonella. As I once said in a previous post "the grubbier the better"- natural immunity developed by relaxed hygeine.
I'm similar.
I grew up near as damn it in a forest. Mum used to call us in, we'd brush the visible lord-knows-what of our hands, then eat.
Probably ingested a fair few bugs that way. Which I assume is what you meant by 'Natural immunity developed by relaxed hygiene'
Yeah thats what I meant, came out all wrong- stressful day, brain is melting... |
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PunkAsF82
Yearling
United Kingdom
909 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2009 : 07:26:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77
I have had snakes for 7 years, never had salmonella. As I once said in a previous post "the grubbier the better"- natural immunity developed by relaxed hygeine.
I'm similar.
I grew up near as damn it in a forest. Mum used to call us in, we'd brush the visible lord-knows-what of our hands, then eat.
Probably ingested a fair few bugs that way. Which I assume is what you meant by 'Natural immunity developed by relaxed hygiene'
I can join you on this one Kehhlyr. Basically growing up at a horse stables, running around, getting covered in i dread to think, then going and eating lunch while sat on hay bales surrounded by again who knows what I probably ate some sort of swine flu virus waaaay before everyone else cared  |
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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon - Cooper
0.1.0 Amel corn - Lucky
0.1.0 Normal Leopard Gecko - Layla
1.1.0 Cats - Zelda the Maine Coon & Link the Ragdoll X Tabby
0.0.50 Malawi Cichlids
0.0.20 Community fish tank
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531 Posts |
Posted - 18/11/2009 : 23:02:29
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| I just got over samonella ...But i can honestly say it wasnt from my snakes...I had a dodgy curry lol and its something i wouldnt wish on anyone....I always use hand gel but i also use gloves when cleaning but then thats me .snakes and children are not a prob ...just make sure you wash ya hand when handling or cleaning out the snake. |
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Is Salmonella Ever a Problem?
