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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  09:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all.

I have 2 corn snakes of between 2 and a half and 3 foot. I have had them probed twice. One person said both males (but one of them really wouldn't cooperate and i think he guessed in the end) and the other said both females. Someone is not very good at probing I thought, so I got shown how to do it and did them myself (under supervision). Well I would say that one of them is definatly a girl (which i always thought) but I can see why they got confused by the other one. When I probed this one the probe went in 4 to 4and a half scales. (the other snake was 3 scales). i know that it should be up to 3 scales for a female and over 8 for a male, but with the first person that probed them, he said that this one was just a small male.
do you think this is true? or am i wright in thinking it is actualy just a large female.
i would like to breed them, so would like someone that really is definate that the information is correct to answer please. dont mean to be rude, but i know people guess and i may not be able to tell who they are.
Thanks.

Brookestar
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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  11:09:08  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
to be honest with you linda the only way you can ever be certain is getting a breeder to probe them because it sounds like (no offense) but the three times he has been probed no-one was certain. i think you might need to PM GingerPony as she probably knows the most but i think she will probably say the same just to be safe
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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  15:06:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Brookestar.
I will try to send a message to GingerPony and see what she says. The people that probed them were also supposed to be breeders, but worked in a shop. which makes it strange that they came up with different answers.
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  15:22:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Males can tense up when probed and can then be confused with females. Both snakes feel different when probed.

When probing a female, the probe will feel like its hitting a solid surface when it stops. With the male, it wont feel as solid.

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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  16:17:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HI. matty
I think it felt solid. The trouble is I have only probed my 2 snakes. I also knew about them tensing up. when the other people probed them they didnt like it, I could tell. But they seemed alot more relaxed when I did it.
What do you think about the number of scales?
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  16:33:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At 4.5 scales, I would be leaning towards female. It may be worth giving it a week or two, then probing both again (with supervision again if you think you need it) so that you can compare them.

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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  16:42:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again Matty.
That is what I have always thought(female). I will do that and check for the hard stop or spongyness.
It was the length of 4 to 4.5 that threw me. I just needed confermation that a female could measure this much and still be female.
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

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Posted - 04/10/2009 :  16:52:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No worries.

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hiper2009
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Posted - 12/10/2009 :  22:20:55  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Why dont you just take the snake down to your local rep shop and let them prob it

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Posted - 13/10/2009 :  07:24:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
she has hiper but got two different answers..


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