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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  03:03:05  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote

Just remembered this while I was answering an intros question, and thought i'd pass it on.

Had to google it to remember the full info, but it shows that I do still retain some of my Science texts in my head somewhere.

Cloning by Parthenogenesis
A snake is born to a mother that did not have a mate. Although this may sound
impossible, or like some headline in a tabloid magazine, this can actually occur in nature.
Parthenogenesis (pahr thuh noh JEHN uh sihs) is a type of reproduction in which a new
individual develops from an unfertilized egg. Since there is no male that contributes
genetic material, the offspring is a clone (genetically identical) of the mother. Clones are
usually produced in nature by asexual reproduction. Parthenogenesis, however, is a
special form of cloning.


Why Does Parthenogenesis Occur?
Parthenogenesis in snakes has usually occurred in older females that have lived many
years without male companionship, such as those in a zoo. It is hypothesized that the
mother snake copies her own chromosomes in place of the missing father’s
chromosomes, thereby self-fertilizing her egg. Other scientists think that after a long
absence of males, some unknown signal (such as a hormone) triggers the egg to start
dividing.


http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v90/n2/full/6800210a.html

Might be interesting for some people.


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Ell
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  09:36:16  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Komodo dragons do that :D



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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  10:57:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good post Kehhl...



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lee2308
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  12:33:39  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
very interesting


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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  14:23:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

very interesting




can you say the word...lol...


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PunkAsF82
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  16:05:19  Show Profile  Visit PunkAsF82's Homepage  Click to see PunkAsF82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
most amphibians do this.

Also, a large number of extotherms, mainly phibs, will change sex in a single sex environment One way to beat nature

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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  21:08:53  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Clown Fish can change sex as well. Was watching an interesting docu about them the other day, apparently they live in a very hierarchical society, with each one being exactly 20% smaller than the next one up.

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PunkAsF82
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  23:02:22  Show Profile  Visit PunkAsF82's Homepage  Click to see PunkAsF82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hehe thats cool

Almost as cool as a praying mantis eating its lovers head after mating, to show males the real leaders (and to limit food compitition of course lol)

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Posted - 03/07/2009 :  06:49:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
that's amazing! i knew amphibian could do it but i had no idea that snakes could...

the amazing colour of the cornsnake, as it glides through the feild, never a mistake
so as not to wake
the hapless prey before it, this may as well roll over and close it's eyes as the silent hunter shall always get his prize.
the forked tounge can smell you mouse,red eyes can see you stir, if she does not wake and run now, that will be the end of her.
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great post!
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heatseeker872591
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  13:08:03  Show Profile  Visit heatseeker872591's Homepage  Reply with Quote
haha i heard that a female komodo in london zoo done it. does sany one remember the 1998 movie godzilla? the lizard in that done it aswell tho that was referred to as "Asexual reproduction" its a good topic tho

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Mancunian
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Posted - 05/07/2009 :  14:53:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Komodo Dragon at Chester Zoo did this also. All the offspring were clones. One of the true miracles of nature.

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HannahB
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Posted - 06/07/2009 :  19:59:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PunkAsF82


Almost as cool as a praying mantis eating its lovers head after mating, to show males the real leaders (and to limit food compitition of course lol)



i thought that the male praying mantis couldnt mate with its head attached to its body still.. lol glad im not a male praying mantis!


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PunkAsF82
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Posted - 06/07/2009 :  21:03:11  Show Profile  Visit PunkAsF82's Homepage  Click to see PunkAsF82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
haha so am i. just proves that girls rule

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