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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
 Posted - 10/12/2013 : 11:41:07
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So I've been umming and ahhing about putting this up and it's finally got to me and I have to know.
I put a picture of Cereus up on a group not long a go and was told he was a "High White Butter" instead of normal... Now, I'm confused because I'll admit he's paler than a lot of butters but he's not exactly truly white... His base colour is sort of "Off white" and his saddles are nice and yellow. In some pictures his colour is washed out that much that he almost looks like a snow...
So. My first question is - What is a High White Butter?
I'm guessing it just means the butter has more white than normal? Or is it another term for Hypo Butter? I'm not sure... I have wondered before about him being a Hypo Butter but didn't think you could tell the difference so just thought maybe it was my eyes and he wasn't as pale as he looked but after someone else telling me he's got more white than normal it kind of dawned on me...
So, essentially this is a morph question but it's also a question about High White Butters and Hypo Butters. I had never heard of High Whites before... I though Hypo Butters looked the same as Normal Butters and you could only tell the difference after a trial breeding?
So, here's some pictures of Cereus. As you can see, his colour seems to change in each picture which doesn't help but I'd say picture number five is the most accurate colour wise. This is also the one where I was told he was a High White. That is a picture in the sun.
I'm sorry I'm putting yet another morph question up but now I'm confused about it. I've always though he was a Normal Butter, he was sold to me as an "American Butter Corn" but I thought that was just a name made up for him by the old owners?  I don't like being confused. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2013 : 18:57:54
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I would have just said butter but I'm not the most experienced person to ask. He's really quite lovely  |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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luna
Hatchling
121 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2013 : 21:39:10
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| Beautiful looking snake |
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mjpeters
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1539 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2013 : 21:58:44
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| Gorgeous boy! maybe Dilute? only saying that because of Dilute pics.and description on I.V...? |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2013 : 11:29:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Moppet
I would have just said butter but I'm not the most experienced person to ask. He's really quite lovely
Thanks Moppet, that's what I've always thought but doubts have been put in my mind now...
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Originally posted by luna
Beautiful looking snake
Thanks
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Originally posted by mjpeters
Gorgeous boy! maybe Dilute? only saying that because of Dilute pics.and description on I.V...?
I don't know. I got him and his set up for £100 last year, I've always thought that he was just a butter and I was happy with that but I don't know now. I'm just confused and I don't like being confused. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2013 : 17:28:11
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Hypo Butters can vary greatly, but on the whole it's one example where Hypo goes AGAINST what it normally does to toher morphs- that is to say, it makes butters darker, not lighter. Why, I have no idea :P
Take for example one of my Hypo butters from this year, certainly not as bright as a normal Butter, and more closer to looking like an Amel. This one has quite a lot of white, especially near the rear, but is nowhere near as light in colour as your big boy. I'd suggest a normal butter, purely because he is very much a yellow snake, and not reddy/orange like most Hypo butters.
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Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2013 : 20:00:46
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Ah, OK... Lol.
Thanks for that Oscar |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Ah, OK...
