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Freddiesmum
Sub Adult

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Posted - 24/10/2013 :  11:58:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reading through posts on another forum, and some people seem to be of the view it is better to brumate snakes every year, even if you do not plan to breed (I have no plans to breed myself)

What do you think? Is it worthwhile in the long run? Does anyone here brumate without the intention of breeding?

Just curious

1.1.0 Corn Snakes, Oscar the Golddust Motley, Emmy the Ultramel Anery
2.0.0 Cats, Yoda and Ed
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, Masuka
1.0.0 Western Hognose Snake - Hugo

Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 24/10/2013 :  18:38:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hm, I was thinking about that as well, so it will be interesting to see, what other people's experiences are. I think that a short winter rest could only do them good, and might even prolong their lives, in the long run. Problem is, I don't have anywhere with stable enough temperature to brumate properly. Garage? Probably too cold, with lots of ups and downs...
I think they know it's winter, as mine see daylight, and seem to use it as their indicator that winter is here, Baz just buries herself in the coldest corner, and doesn't come out. We have the heating on during the day, but not at night, so the night time ambients are lower as well. I will continue feeding, but will space the feeds out more, but that's as far as I'll go.

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1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 24/10/2013 :  23:21:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't brumate any of my snakes. I didn't even brumate the snakes I bred last year. Mostly because I don't have anywhere with a stable temperature to do so either...

I find that all of my corns seem to spend more time in their cool hides in the winter, perhaps because the natural light changes and they know it is winter. Although their appetites don't seem to be bad, perhaps they are a little less manically eager to eat than they are at say this time of year just as winter approaches. I think they're trying to store fat for brumation but they don't realise that they won't have to brumate and can still eat all winter. I've had a fair few feeding related bites recently (not necessarily ANYWHERE near food) which normally aren't an issue unless I do something stupid.

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Edited by - Moppet on 24/10/2013 23:22:31
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Freddiesmum
Sub Adult

1083 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2013 :  08:42:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah that was my one concern if I did, unsure if i have anywhere with stable enough temps.

I would quite like to give it a go though (although not this year). Oscar did slow down alot last year and missed a few feeds, so I feel like he's attempting to.

I think I'll set up some thermometers in a couple places over the winter this year, to see if I can get stable enough temps to do it next year. That way I'm more prepared and if the temps aren't stable I'll know not to even try next year.


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1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, Masuka
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Lee
Yearling

United Kingdom
522 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2013 :  09:56:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mine are all spending more than half their time in the cool end, still eating fine though. I don't have lights in the vivs so it's just natural light and maybe the shorter darker days are prompting them to brumate. I won't be brumating mine as I have nowhere to put them which would allow it.
Is there any harm in generally lowering the temp a little in the warm end or is it just best left.

1.2.4 Corn Snakes - Carolina, 2 x Bloodred het Lavender, Amel, Snow, Anery and Carolina.
0.0.1 Cali King - Ziggy - escaped!!
RIP Princess x

Edited by - Lee on 25/10/2013 09:57:05
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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2013 :  10:20:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's some thing I'd like to look into more, although i think I'd leave the decision to the boys. I could be wrong but I think some people don't drop the temps that much,


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Freddiesmum
Sub Adult

1083 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2013 :  10:53:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would think not to lower temps as if you are still feeding, as they need the heat to digest?

I would want to drop the temps quite a bit, as if they aren't dropped low enough, I've heard the metabolism doesn't drop enough, so they still lose weight, whereas if the temps are dropped low enough thier metabolism drops enough so they don't lose much weight.

These are all just thoughts in my head haha, don't quote me on that!

Hope some of it makes sense lol.

1.1.0 Corn Snakes, Oscar the Golddust Motley, Emmy the Ultramel Anery
2.0.0 Cats, Yoda and Ed
1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, Masuka
1.0.0 Western Hognose Snake - Hugo

Edited by - Freddiesmum on 25/10/2013 10:54:28
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Lee
Yearling

United Kingdom
522 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2013 :  11:25:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That makes sense FM, I will keep temps as they are and leave it to them to spend more time at the cool end.

1.2.4 Corn Snakes - Carolina, 2 x Bloodred het Lavender, Amel, Snow, Anery and Carolina.
0.0.1 Cali King - Ziggy - escaped!!
RIP Princess x
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