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SilverWings
Yearling

United Kingdom
740 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  20:10:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've long assumed Luna was a caramel corn, but recently, looking at pics of other caramels, I've started to wonder. Most caramels seem to have black belly checkers, and the black outlines are quite defined and clear. Luna's black is more of a grey, and...well...



Those are clearly not black belly checkers o.O Is she in fact amber, not caramel? What do you guys think?

2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman
1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron
1.0 Green Anoles; Doug
1.0 Greyhound; Lee

AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  20:12:31  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yup, she's Amber


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  20:41:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks amber with those belly chequers!!!

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SilverWings
Yearling

United Kingdom
740 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  20:56:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome, thanks guys ^_^ I wish I knew what hets she and Diego have, I can't wait for the babies to hatch o.O

2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman
1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron
1.0 Green Anoles; Doug
1.0 Greyhound; Lee
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  21:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks more like an Amber than a Caramel to me

2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs
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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1315 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  21:50:19  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Caramel with yellowing checks! Here is mine.





Top shot.




Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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SilverWings
Yearling

United Kingdom
740 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  22:48:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theres a lot more black on yours (around the saddle borders)....

2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman
1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron
1.0 Green Anoles; Doug
1.0 Greyhound; Lee
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witchy
Egg

United Kingdom
91 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  23:17:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My caramel fella has yellow checkers like your Luna, though he has a thin black saddle border more like Dans- I'm away from home at the mo but will try to upload a piccy tomorrow
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SilverWings
Yearling

United Kingdom
740 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  23:23:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Huh, confused now lol

2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman
1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron
1.0 Green Anoles; Doug
1.0 Greyhound; Lee
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  23:23:56  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Regardless of morph she is a pretty snake with a honey comb/bee hive belly :P

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1315 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2013 :  07:52:21  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For comparison, yearling amber...




Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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SilverWings
Yearling

United Kingdom
740 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2013 :  12:38:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, I wish I knew what Luna looked like when she was younger...or even how old she is now o.O I have absolutely no history of either of them, so no hopes of tracking down the breeder and saying 'what are they?'

2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman
1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron
1.0 Green Anoles; Doug
1.0 Greyhound; Lee
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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1315 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2013 :  13:19:32  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The best way to go with morphs you're unsure of is to go with the lowest it could be.

Then you will never be disappointed if you breed them and get something unexpected!



Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2013 :  16:30:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It does look Amber-like, but Caramels can be light. I would hesitate to say definitively if it was or wasn't, as I know I have an Amber female which does have quite dark checkers herself.. It's a toughie. I'd say pehaps 75% sure it may be Amber, but I don't think you can say for sure.. But then, that goes for most morphs these days :P



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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