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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2013 :  13:45:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just caught Socks taking a rest in the stable - he's out and about now, though still not 100%. They have free access to the stables, and it was just too hot, and too many flies to be out.
Just taking a siesta, Mum:


So's Bungie the stable cat - " Talk to the paw "

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
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0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  13:49:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aww, bless them

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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1539 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  14:46:27  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  16:02:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aww they are both so cute, Sock is gorgeous and that shoulders looking much better


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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  16:59:01  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That horse s beautiful

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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2013 :  17:00:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both so gorgeous, feel sorry for all the animals that get harrased by swarms of flies


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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  17:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone :-)

Lupi Lou, the scar has healed very nicely, but he's showing patchy sweating on and off - couple of inches under the scar, even when it's not warm, and he doesn't sweat anywhere else. He also flinches if I touch him on the sweaty patch. He doesn't even want to trot, although I saw him gallop yesterday, when a car alarm frightened him, and he didn't seem lame then.
There's no discharge from the scar, it really is sweat:

I'm tempted to let the vets se him again, if this continues -although I know it was a big operation, and he will need time to heal fully on the inside.

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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  17:24:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awww those pics are so sweet!

What about just emailing the vet a picture and asking? Rather than getting them out to see him again? Then if the vet is concerned he could say if he thought a visit was necessary?

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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  17:24:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SBB, both mine are sniggering from the cool stables, while I'm ragworting and picking up chopped ferns, and being eaten alive by the horseflies. Hubby's allergic to horsefly bites, so comes up in huge lumps when bitten.
It's true though about the flies, the only time I see the horses actually using the stables is now, during the heat and flies. Otherwise they choose to stay out, even in the worst winter weather and driving rain, just sheltering under the hedges.

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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  17:35:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Smart bunny, I was thinking about e mailing the pics. My problem is that my normal vet says one think, and the vet that did the operation says the opposite - and I sort of feel caught in the middle. The hospital is too far away for the vet that did the surgery to come out to see my horse, when I rung him , he suggested I bring the horse over to the hospital for a check up, or contact my vet if I'm worried. My vet thought it was fine, and it just needs time.

I haven't got a transport, so it's costing me £90 for each transport - it would mean £180 just for the journey, even before the hospital sees him! I also don't want my vet to think I'm using two vets at the same time...
The swelling has gone down so much since Socks has been out full time, but I know he's still not 100%, because of the sweating...it's not there all the time, though.

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1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
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Blackcat
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1235 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2013 :  21:09:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Razee Socks looks so well after his ordeal of surgery and the cat is just gorgeous.
I may be totally wrong but the sweating could be part of the healing process. The tissues below the surface are repairing and during this process there could be heat generated, which inturn causes the sweating on the surface - just a thought.
It could also be because of slight discomfort in that area due to all the trauma of surgery - this will lessen with time as tissues heal.
I could be totally wrong on both accounts as I'm not an expert in any way shape or form.
You have to go with your gut feelings - if you think he needs to see the vet then get the vet to see him.



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ozziesmum
Yearling

United Kingdom
736 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  09:49:29  Show Profile  Send ozziesmum a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Razee, Socks is such a beautiful boy and he seems to be recovering well after his op but if you are not 100% happy with the progress of healing then you should insist that your vet comes out to visit him. Just a thought on the "sweat" patch could it possibly be the remainder of the body fluids that built up at the site of the op draining out through the sweat glands.

Jane.



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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  13:46:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ozziesmum, that's really interesting, what you said about the fluid built up. He did have a major fluid built up in that area, as well as the operation site, and it kept re filling, hence he had to have drain re - inserted, twice - once still in hospital, and once when he was back home. It was my first thought, too, whether it could still be some fluid, draining through the skin itself, as the swelling has gone down almost completely now. Also, because it's not there all the time - this morning it was completely dry, despite the weather being very hot already.
The hospital vet said this could be possible, my vet said it's unlikely. Take your pick? :-)
How are you yourself, and how are you recovering?

Blackcat, I know, Socks is coping really well. I just found a stitch, still left in the very top of the scar. The stitches have been very tight, and the whole area swollen, so the vet had a real job taking them all out - and, even finding them. Now the swelling's gone, I've found one two days ago, which I managed to get out, but this one is so tight, I can't cut it. He let me fiddle with it for ages, didn't even fidget. So might have to have the vet anyway.
My gut feeling is - give him time. It was just such a big trauma, and he had lots of secondary swellings, and is missing a muscle... but there is always a part of me, that sees the worst possible scenario, and panics :-)

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1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
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Blackcat
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1235 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  15:44:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Socks is so good to let you mess around trying to remove a left in stitch, he clearly knows you are trying to help as it must be uncomfortable having a 'tight' stitch remaining.
Your gut feeling is most likely correct, but very understandable after the 'HUGE' ordeal he has been through that you see the worst case scenario and need reassuring - it is human nature
I have found that 'some' vets just don't like to committ to 'possible' reasons for things and this just doesn't help owners who want some kind of reassurance. Which of the vets in your case is the 'most' qualified and most likely sees this kind of thing the most (I would imagine the one which carried out the surgery) and I would most likely believe him/her.
It is always difficult when you have been referred from one vet to another and both have been involved with the treatment, you nearly always find a certain degree of differing opinions on follow on treatment.
I am assuming this is an insurance claim so further call outs should be covered for ongoing treatment, also check to see if your policy covers for alternative treatment such as physiotherapy and if it does, get it reccommended by your vet, if the vet refers your horse for physio then you should be able to claim for this too.



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1.1.0 Brazillian Rainbow Boa's - Indigo & Ruby
0.0.2 Columbian Rainbow Boa's - Orinoco & Tobago
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  19:41:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Naaawwww poor Socks, sounds good that there wasn't fluid there this morning though :D

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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  20:26:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
regarding the sweating I did know a horse who injured his neck, he was kicked and it initially was very swollen and even after the injury has healed he used to sweat up in that area and no were else so it could well be related to the amount of trauma that that area has had to deal with. As you say it's still early days and it will take time to heal. His reluctance to trot could be down to more the memory of the pain if he was sound in gallop. Think of the horse that learns to buck as the saddle doesn't fit, once the saddle is sorted they quite often continue to buck as the association with pain is still there initially. As the other have said trust your judgement if you feel a vet visit is needed then give them a call.I can fully understand why you worry. Jack ended up going to Liverpool for potential colic surgery and it was a very traumatic time fortunately he didn't need surgery but needless to say it has made me very paranoid!


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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2013 :  23:04:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aw they are both lovely, but Socks is just beautiful. Hope he's back to his usual self soon.


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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2013 :  15:20:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aaargh... just found this morning he's got a lump on his leg, just below knee, looks like he's growing a splint... Is there no end to this? He's driving me mad.... He's knocked his coronet band yesterday quite badly, and it bled. Now this.
Having a vet tomorrow, to remove the last stitch, so will ask him about the sweat, and the lump.

This is fifth vet visit since he's come back from hospital, and ( whispers guiltily ) he's not insured. I only had them both on third party, as I had bad experience with vet fees insurance before. Was thinking about getting him insured before breaking him in, but, with a hindsight, should have done it earlier. So, that's all my savings gone... but there was no question he wouldn't have the operation. Good job he's nice.

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1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2013 :  20:02:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh no Razee, he's really having a time of it! I hope he is OK and all goes well with the vet tomorrow xxx

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