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Coal
Hatchling

449 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  10:09:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all, Coal here, I'm new to the forum and pretty new to reptile keeping in general; just got my first corn last week c:

He's a very handsome amel male with a lovely temperament; he's never so much as rattled his tail or hissed (do corn snakes hiss...?), let alone bitten, and although he can be quite wriggly he seems to quite enjoy being handled.

The only pic I have of him is quite large so in the interests of not stretching the board....(Kellog decides that Lovecraft deserves a big pic because he's so lovely)



I just have one question at the mo'; he's about 11 months old right now and is about 50cm long, and I was wondering whether this is normal as it seems a little small to me. I'm not worried; he seems to be in great health, I'm just curious to here others' opinions c:

Thanks and hi again <3

Edited by Kellog to include pic

'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel

'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino)

Edited by - Kellog on 21/06/2013 19:03:53

Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  10:21:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello and welcome!

Lovecraft is a lovely looking little one
He looks plenty big enough to me, but as long as he is eating/pooping/behaving normally, I wouldnt worry about size - they all grow at different rates
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ozziesmum
Yearling

United Kingdom
736 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  10:29:33  Show Profile  Send ozziesmum a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome

Jane.



Oscar Black Lab, Saffron, Merlin and Mischief the cats, assorted fish, Rhubarb & Custard the corns, Tuppence the Tortoise, Tripod the Leopard Gecko.
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  11:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiya and welcome :D Looks a good shape to me - what size mice are you feeding him? If he's nearing a size increase then he will have a growth spurt when you move him up ;)

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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  11:42:25  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome.


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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twistedmonkey
Hatchling

United Kingdom
132 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  11:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome to the forum

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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  12:20:58  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome to the forum. For 11 months i would have thought thats quite small simply going by my 3 month old who is longer than 50cm :S But ive read people here say they grow at different rates so i dont know.

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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Coal
Hatchling

449 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  12:56:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the welcomes guys :D

He seems healthy enough, feeding readily and pooping normally. Before I got him he was being fed one fluff a week (which didn't seem like a lot to me...) and in the interests of helping him settle in I carried that on with his first meal with me, but I think I might start giving him smalls, and if he won't take them, two fluffs instead... does that sound like a good idea to you guys?

@ ScaryVonHayletstine: Hmm, that does make me think Lovecraft is a little small for his age... hopefully his growth will speed up and if not, I guess I'll just have a small snake; so long as he's happy and healthy I don't mind c:

'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel

'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino)

Edited by - Coal on 21/06/2013 12:57:23
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  13:06:12  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a good idea to me. My intention wasnt to worry you of his size, maybe mine are just stupidly large :o aha. But like you said he's very healthy so im sure he's fine ^^

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  13:06:58  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
By the way, i adore H.P Lovecraft and have a huge collection of his stories. So very much approve of the name ;D

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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Coal
Hatchling

449 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  13:27:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:D I'm glad you like his name!

I was a little surprised at how many blank looks I got when I told people what he was called... I thought H.P. Lovecraft was pretty well-known but apparently not, at least around me. I've always loved the mythos but have only just started reading the Necronomicon for myself c:

And yeah, I'm not overly worried, I'll just make sure to keep measuring his growth to see how he's doing c:

'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel

'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino)
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  14:02:30  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Im in the middle of reading the necronomicon ^^

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  15:59:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The shop I get my mice from sells 'mini-mice' or hoppers which are between fuzzies and smalls which is quite handy. My first corn is fairly large, and by just over 12 months was on smalls, but my second corn has always been thinner, and was on large fuzzies at 11 months, moving up to the mini-mice at 13 months and finally up to smalls at 14 months. To be honest your snake doesn't look as thin as her (she's always been very slender) so may well be ready for smalls now - as long as they are no wider than 1.5 times the width of the widest part of the head he'll be fine. If you are concerned about the width then you could give double fluff feeds, although that is actually likely to be a larger meal than one small :)

Off to google necronomicon now :P*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Coal
Hatchling

449 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  16:14:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm, hoppers do sound very handy! Unfortunately the only place near me that sells frozen mice does not do them, just fluffs and then straight on up to smalls :(

It is more the width I'm worried about than the size of the meal; I've heard about the 1.5x rule before and just looking by eye I would say he'd be fine, but I'll do some measurements beforehand just to be certain. If he won't take a small/if it's too big I'll probably alternate double fluff and single fluff meals for a while... does that seem sensible? (Need all the advice I can get :P )

'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel

'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino)
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  16:50:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  16:53:17  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
id say if your going to give double meals then carry it on as long as your snake agrees.

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  19:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you've joined us Coal. Lovecraft is lovely . Please don't worry about whether he is big enough compared to others his size. If you look in How big should my snake be? you'll see how much snakes even from the same clutch, who are fed exactly the same, can differ. As has been said, as long as he's doing everything he should then he's fine .

As far as feeding is concerned, if you are concerned that small mice are too wide for him then it's fine to do some feeds of double fluffs. I know it can seem daunting when you compare the size of their head with what you need them to eat, but its amazing how they can stretch their jaws and swallow prey that just seems too big . There is more information on knowing when to move up to the next size, etc in A VERY ROUGH guide to feeding . There are also other good threads in that section to help you make sure you've got his set-up right with its heatmat, thermostat and digital thermometer, and about shedding, handling, etc.

If you can't find what you want to know using the search option, then please don't hesitate to ask. We don't bite....much .

And a word of warning.....keeping corns is addictive, Lovecraft won't be your one and only !!

Xxx


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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  19:21:14  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hopefully a Cthullu with be next ;D or Maybe an Edgar and an Allan and a Poe! :o

Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan)
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Slinkey23
Hatchling

United Kingdom
134 Posts

Posted - 21/06/2013 :  19:35:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wlecome to the fun! Hes lovely

1.0.0 Carolina Corn
1.0.0 staffordshire bull terrier
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 22/06/2013 :  12:24:47  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hello and welcome

1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python
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Callazagy
Yearling

United Kingdom
506 Posts

Posted - 22/06/2013 :  12:57:33  Show Profile  Click to see Callazagy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi & Welcome

* 2.1 Corn Snakes (Arthas - Normal, Tilion - Anery Lav, Yavanna - Stripe) * 1.1 Cape House Snake (Jenson & Ginetta) * 1.0 Carpet Python (Irian Jaya Jag - Grantly) *
* 1.0 Amazon Tree Boa (Omen) * 1.1.2 Crested Geckos (Brindle, Harley, Noumea & Farino) * 0.0.2 Gargoyle Geckos (Pazuzu & Vesper) *
* 0.0.1 Mexican Red Leg Tarantula (Aragog) * 1.1 Leopard Geckos (Kara & Darwin) * 1.0 Dog (Labrador - Barney) * 1.0 Cat (Casper) *
* 1.0 Western Hognose (Hamilton) * 1.0 Apricot Pueblan Milk Snake (Tweek) * 0.0.2 Common Musk Turtles (Erin & Ira) *
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