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davewhite115
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
3 Posts

Posted - 25/03/2013 :  01:36:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys
My snake Tifa shed the other day and the tip of her tail didn't come off. Is there any thing I can do to get it off?

I'm sorry if there is already a post on this subject :)

Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
485 Posts

Posted - 25/03/2013 :  07:16:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hia davewhite115, I am all very new to this, but there is a fantastic sticky on the subject of retained shed

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12296

Even though as I said I was new, it is very important to get the tip of the shed off. How old is Tifa? That might help so that other more knowledgeable forum members can give you advice more tailored to her needs. Hope all goes well and let us know how you get on

(you do realize that now you have posted, when she is all done pics are pretty compulsory!)

Joking aside, hope all goes well and she gets the last bit of shed off.

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Blackcat
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/03/2013 :  08:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is a good sticky with great info, hope you get the bit of retained shed off.
When Morse retained a tiny piece on the tip of his tail I just got a damp face cloth and gently wiped down the tail and it came off, but you do have to be careful.
Good luck



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davewhite115
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
3 Posts

Posted - 25/03/2013 :  11:13:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers for the info.She is roughly 9 months old. I'll attach some of her and my other snake to my signature
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coxymk2
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1245 Posts

Posted - 25/03/2013 :  20:28:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let her run through a damp cloth a few times and it should come away with no problem

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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/03/2013 :  20:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is fantastic news

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davewhite115
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
3 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2013 :  14:54:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi tried running her through a warm damp cloth and it worked a treat cheers.
I would add the pics but i'm not sure how lol :)
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2331 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2013 :  15:07:47  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by davewhite115

Hi tried running her through a warm damp cloth and it worked a treat cheers.
I would add the pics but i'm not sure how lol :)



Pretty sure theres a sticky for that too haha but basically upload your pics to photobucket and then copy and paste the img code here


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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/03/2013 :  15:50:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's the sticky for posting photos: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14057
Glad you got that bit of shed off alright :-)


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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/03/2013 :  20:52:57  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
We have just got a two and a half year old chap (ultramel anery motley hurricane pattern)at some stage he retained a part of shed,and he is now left with the very tip of his tail with 2-3mm of weird hard dried stick like protruding from the end.His scales have grown down to it perfectly.The vet says it is long standing and healed-the remaining bit is withered piece of dried up vertibrae about as thin as a cocktail stick- and would cause more harm than good to try and operate on it and in time it will fall off (like they band lambs tails).
I'll try and get some pics so you can see what an unattended retained bit of shed looks like.
I can only hope this guy doesn't have any pain now.He is eating well,and is great to handle.
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2013 :  04:22:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mjpeters



We have just got a two and a half year old chap (ultramel anery motley hurricane pattern)at some stage he retained a part of shed,and he is now left with the very tip of his tail with 2-3mm of weird hard dried stick like protruding from the end.His scales have grown down to it perfectly.The vet says it is long standing and healed-the remaining bit is withered piece of dried up vertibrae about as thin as a cocktail stick- and would cause more harm than good to try and operate on it and in time it will fall off (like they band lambs tails).
I'll try and get some pics so you can see what an unattended retained bit of shed looks like.
I can only hope this guy doesn't have any pain now.He is eating well,and is great to handle.




This shows why it's so important to check every shed to make sure the tail tip has come away clean, doesn't it Meg....because your boy is having to live with the consequences of that not happening.

I very much doubt he's in pain now from it. As far as I know the the multiple retained sheds eventually act as a tourniquet preventing the tail from growing as the rest of the body is and so the blood supply is cut off and it too then dies and falls off. You made a good comparison with banding lambs tails....for them it's painful when the band is first put on but the sensation dies away as the circulation fails and then there is no feeling, even when the tail falls off. In a way it's even better for snakes who are in this situation....because it happens over a period of time, instead of a sudden restriction like with the rubber band.

It would be great to have some pics of it, purely out of interest....and we require pics of your snake for us to admire anyway .

Xxx


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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1539 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2013 :  21:04:59  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote







Thanks-its good to know 'George'is not suffering.He is our third rescue corn-the first two were tiny starved babies that had to be fed the tiniest new born mice.Lucky for us we have Livefoods By Post half a mile away-they were able to provide what we needed (euthanised to order!).Hopefully I can now put pics of George with this post-any Ideas on what he is gratefully recieved.
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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/04/2013 :  22:52:42  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just to say the last pic.shows the stump-I'll try and get a better pic. I ran out of light and only have been able to borrow a basic camera.
We were told as a baby George was VERY pink and only faded to the salmon colours that are sort of diffused throughout as he grew.We love the pink on the sides of his head and the lilac/grey tones.
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  04:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is stunning !! I'm terrible with morphs, so can't help you there. I immediately noticed the colouring down his side and on his belly. Was struggling to think of the colour to describe it and you've given it to me....salmon. Best thing to do is start a new topic, with pics, in the morph section....because that's where all the 'Morph experts' hang out . Make sure you mention his colouring as a baby.

It's interesting seeing his tail in that last pic. Does it feel strange to touch? He certainly looks healthy enough.

Well done with your rescues....those 3 corns are blessed to have you as their owners .

Xxx


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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  13:02:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pastel motley comes to my mind - it's like a ghost motley, but with more colour. But now I'm looking at the pics, he's a bit dark for ghost... very interesting.

It's just an idea, and I'm no expert, try to see if eeji replies, he'll be the one to know :-) I'd re post the pics in the morph section, as Kellog has suggested, you'll get more replies :-)

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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/04/2013 :  23:42:53  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Kellog,cant say we realy notice/feel his tail tip much.He has a normal range of movement through his whole body.The little black tip I guess is a bit like a piece of dried up old shed skin.
When it finaly drops off we will post the 'new improved George';)
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2013 :  03:27:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's great that he isn't affected at all by the tail tip. It also is encouraging for anyone who has got a snake whose tail is at risk, they can see from George that their snake can be happy and healthy with a slightly smaller tail .

I see you've got a 'sort of' answer about what morph he might be . Shows the wide variety within morphs....my Asher is a ghost motley, we think, and is so different to George. It's the salmon colouring that is throwing everyone and makes him so special. But if Eeji says he's either an anery motley or a ghost motley, then he is !

Xxx


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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1539 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2013 :  11:10:23  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
thanks kellog,we think he's a super chap-good to know other folks do too.
Do you think this salmon pinky trait could be selectively bred for?
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2013 :  12:38:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am DEFINITELY NOT the person to ask about breeding traits....I know nothing !! Would be lovely to be able to pass the salmon colour on. You need to ask in the morph section. Try to get The Morph Master's attention....otherwise known as Eeji . He'll be able to answer your question, although it may be hard to with hidden hets and other things that I don't understand involved.

Xxx


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