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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
 Posted - 01/02/2013 : 14:18:42
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hey all so after much thought which larger bodied snake to buy i got my self a BCI (ill post some pics after she has settled in)
so i bought it as a seconded hand set up with the snake 3x2x2 viv heating and lighting my question is it had a heat mat and a red night spot lamp, i have removed the heat mat i assume that is correct, but is just the red heat bulb ok as the only heat, ill put some leds in as a day light,
sugestions please the shop told me to leave the heat mat in but i read eveywhere they are not good for boa ? please advise
i would of put this on the boa site but signed up a few days ago and have not been accepted
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0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 14:46:24
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| I would personally swap that bulb for a ceramic bulb so there is not a light on 24/7 |
1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 14:54:00
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| can i use the same stat ? |
0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 15:24:43
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setup at the mo
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0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 15:26:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
can i use the same stat ?
What type of stat is it? Most people use a pulse stat with a ceramic or a dimming stat. Even an on/off stats can be used. On/off stats will obviously continuously turn the ceramic on and off so the bulb will not last as long and the temperatures will fluctuate a lot. Best to use pulse or dimming. Remember some dimming stats have a minimum of 40w. But with a viv that size you would need a 150w ceramic anyway. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 15:29:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
setup at the mo
How old, what size is the boa? I would add another hide and possibly a larger water bowl depending on size of snake. Make sure the ceramic is guarded, but I guess that the light has a guard so it may be suitable for a ceramic depending on type/size of guard. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 15:47:39
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Originally posted by Red123
quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
can i use the same stat ?
What type of stat is it? Most people use a pulse stat with a ceramic or a dimming stat. Even an on/off stats can be used. On/off stats will obviously continuously turn the ceramic on and off so the bulb will not last as long and the temperatures will fluctuate a lot. Best to use pulse or dimming. Remember some dimming stats have a minimum of 40w. But with a viv that size you would need a 150w ceramic anyway.
it is a 600w dimming habistat so a 150 ceramic would be ok ?
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0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Edited by - Jayclk on 01/02/2013 15:53:00 |
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 15:50:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Red123
quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
setup at the mo
How old, what size is the boa? I would add another hide and possibly a larger water bowl depending on size of snake. Make sure the ceramic is guarded, but I guess that the light has a guard so it may be suitable for a ceramic depending on type/size of guard.
she is around 3.5 foot 1444 grams and around 2 years
yeah i have another hide extra large exo and water bowl large ceramic dog bowl coming tomorrow and the bulb at the mo is gaurded |
0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Edited by - Jayclk on 01/02/2013 15:54:57 |
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 15:51:35
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so a heat mat is a def no no as i thought ?
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0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Auld Baldy
Ikea's Pimp
United Kingdom
1619 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 16:11:19
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| Problem with a heat mat and a heavy bodied snake is that if it lies on part of the mat you get thermal blocking and a localized build up of heat,regardless of where the sensor is located. This is one of the main causes of serious burns. The other is unguarded heat lamps. |
1.0.0: Miami Normal: Taggart
0.0.1: Carolina Normal: Wee Woody
0.0.1: Grey Rat Snake: Mirkey
0.0.1: Amel Corn: Blaze
1.0.0: Carpet Python: Vambo
0.0.1: MBK: Fester
0.0.1: Florida King Snake : Rattler (Rattle & Hum)
0.0.1. California King Snake: El Diablo Diego
0.2.0 Tarantulas : Ermintrude & Euphemia. |
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 16:15:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Auld Baldy
Problem with a heat mat and a heavy bodied snake is that if it lies on part of the mat you get thermal blocking and a localized build up of heat,regardless of where the sensor is located. This is one of the main causes of serious burns. The other is unguarded heat lamps.
ok ty exactly what i thought i had read somewhere |
0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 17:01:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
quote:
Originally posted by Red123
quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
can i use the same stat ?
What type of stat is it? Most people use a pulse stat with a ceramic or a dimming stat. Even an on/off stats can be used. On/off stats will obviously continuously turn the ceramic on and off so the bulb will not last as long and the temperatures will fluctuate a lot. Best to use pulse or dimming. Remember some dimming stats have a minimum of 40w. But with a viv that size you would need a 150w ceramic anyway.
it is a 600w dimming habistat so a 150 ceramic would be ok ?
Yes that stat will be fine for 150w ceramic. Be careful with the guard though. Some guards are designed to be used with light emitting bulbs only and if you use that sort with a ceramic the guard itself will become very hot.
Looking forward to some pics  |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
Edited by - Red123 on 01/02/2013 17:03:22 |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 17:19:46
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Looking forward to photos of your new addition  |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2013 : 17:37:18
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I think that ceramic guards are usually a bit bigger/longer than a standard guard but I use a standard guard on my 150W ceramic and there in not that big a gap between the bulb and guard at the bottom and I can hold my hand on the guard without it burning. You can see how close it is here
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1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2013 : 00:13:07
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| Welcome to the boa owners club :D Mine scared a plumber out of the room yesterday! lol |
     
0.1 normal (Miami) - Hugo
0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
Horses, bearded dragons, a red tailed boa constrictor, a tortoise, a cat and a dog |
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Ok so i have gone and done it
