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beachtony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
 Posted - 25/01/2013 : 10:55:20
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Hi all.
My 7 year old male corn has always been a good feeder (He is a big lad - 6 feet and 1200g but def not a fatty!!) till recently but has now refused feeds for 8 weeks so thought would try and tempt him back into feeding with a chick.He took the chick no probs (not a strike feeder BTW) so offered him a large mouse too as he was in the mood to eat and took that fine too.Great,I thought,he's back on his food,but sometime during the same night,he regurged them both :(
Temps are fine and he is,as he has been during his fast,very active and drinking fine.
Just wondered if any cause to worry as he regurged his first meal in 8 weeks and has never refused feeds before or ever regurged!
Any help very much appreciated.
Tony |
Male corn - Arne
Female corn - Livs
Female Common Boa - Maya |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:02:42
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| It's because you fed him a chick and a mouse I assume. To big if a meal. A chick is fine for an adult corn even of that size. And if they had gone off their food for a length of time you should always feed a size down from their normal as it can send their stomach in shock and the regurge. Wait ten days not handling and offer medium it a small mouse, eaig the normal j yet all but with a smaller meal then you can go back up to a large mouse. Even at 6ft 1200g sounds like a lot. Have you got an pics. It's always interesting to see the biggens ;) |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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beachtony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:25:33
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Hi Georgina,thanks for the reply.There are some pics of him in the photo section but he are a couple 
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Male corn - Arne
Female corn - Livs
Female Common Boa - Maya |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:33:22
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| wow! he looks a good, healthy size, hes beautiful! its just cos there was too much food in his tummy i think |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:55:39
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Yeah, as above, it's best to feed a smaller item after a fast rather than larger. Good luck, I hope he takes a smaller meal for you in 10 days time
He is a stunning looking snake |
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Edited by - smart bunny on 25/01/2013 11:56:11 |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:56:28
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He's stunning. 
I suspect it was probably too much for him to eat.
Leave him for at least 10 days for his gut to get back to normal, with all the enzymes etc needed to digest properly. Then offer him a smaller meal than normal. If he keeps it down offer him another small meal after 5 days. Then gradually increase size and days between feeds until he's back to his normal regime. |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 13:26:21
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| He is a stubby snake. At what a great size :) I'd say he's perfect from the pics :) wouldn't wang him any heavier tho ;) hope he's good to go in ten days x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 16:23:48
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| Hmm... Kind of don't understand this... I was told my female was fat at 900 Grams and she's only 6" smaller than him. He does look nice and healthy but I was told that my 5'6" female was fat at 900 Grams. She's now down to around about 750 Grams and starting to look thin. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2013 : 22:34:26
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| Each snake holds weight different. That's why I asked for photos. This snake is at the max end of the right size. The photos of your snake when you first joined clearly showed your snakes were over weight. It doesn't always go on weight it how they carry it. |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2013 : 00:02:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Georgina
Each snake holds weight different. That's why I asked for photos. This snake is at the max end of the right size. The photos of your snake when you first joined clearly showed your snakes were over weight. It doesn't always go on weight it how they carry it.
That's the thing, they didn't look any different to the one above except that my female seems to use muscle differently so always has a flattened circle but now her back is starting to look triangular but her belly is still flattened circle. Just like it always has been. I still can't get home though, snows still bad. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
Edited by - AcidicAngel on 26/01/2013 00:06:08 |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2013 : 00:17:03
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| This snake still has majority flat sides. Yours pics showed perfectly round snakes. They should have some shape to them. I can't imagine yours are now skinny from the short time they have been on a diet. Get some pics uploaded when your home and I'm sure someone will tell you x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2013 : 00:22:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Georgina
This snake still has majority flat sides. Yours pics showed perfectly round snakes. They should have some shape to them. I can't imagine yours are now skinny from the short time they have been on a diet. Get some pics uploaded when your home and I'm sure someone will tell you x
Just had a text from my mum... They won't be skinny when I get home. She's fed them a chick each tonight and small rat weiners last week  They'll have put weight on again. My male isn't perfectly round and never has been... He's always had flat sides, he's all muscle. My female seems to be no muscle since her sides are always flat to the ground. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2013 : 20:04:28
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| Just a thought - are they going to breed ( male and female living together )? I'm only asking, because if she is about to become pregnant ( or already pregnant ), she most definitely shouldn't be on a diet. If they don't breed , then diet her again,if you need to, but I'd be a bit careful this time of the year. |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2013 : 20:34:21
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| What a beautiful big snake I agree with what some other people have said. I would have thought that this meal was too big for him to manage after a fast like that and that is possibly why he regurged. Don't feed him for ten days then offer something smaller than normal |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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beachtony
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
9 Posts |
Posted - 28/01/2013 : 13:02:52
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| Thanks for all your replies everyone.Seems the mouse on top of the chick was a bit much for him as had a bit of a fast before Yep,he's a lovely lad,very tame and friendly and always up for an exploring mission out of the viv !! Hopefully will be back to normal feeding soon. |
Male corn - Arne
Female corn - Livs
Female Common Boa - Maya |
Edited by - beachtony on 28/01/2013 13:08:08 |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 29/01/2013 : 15:23:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Razee
Just a thought - are they going to breed ( male and female living together )? I'm only asking, because if she is about to become pregnant ( or already pregnant ), she most definitely shouldn't be on a diet. If they don't breed , then diet her again,if you need to, but I'd be a bit careful this time of the year.
They bred a good amount of times last year but nothing came out of it. Not even slug eggs and she never changed. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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