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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
 Posted - 17/01/2013 : 22:34:54
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Originally posted by Donnie
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
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Originally posted by Thorne Walker
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Originally posted by Donnie
What if it was to fail? You haven't got anything to help protect your snake or your home, if mats fail that are plugged into a stat the stat is designed as such that it should cut power to the mat and avoid it possibly causing a fire (or cooking snakey). Just because it has not happened yet doesn't mean it can't happen especially as a £20/£25 stat will eliminate the risk.
A stat will not protect from all failure modes and you're presuming that there is no smoke detector in AA's home.
If mat's fail in such a way that the stat probe is not being heated then the stat will continue to supply power up to the cut off point. In the case of the Reptitherm unit that I have my mat's connected to it 500w which is more then enough power to cause a fire/damage to my home/harm to my pets.
@AcidicAngel: Why the poly? if the mat does overheat during a failure the poly will quickly become fuel for the fire and could make things much worse.
I was actually told that if I was going to have the heat mat under the viv to have it with polystyrene between the mat and any wood as it would set fire to the wood...? Am I actually making it worse with the poly there? Btw, the mat is only 12 watt and even under the viv it heats the viv up to 28-30C during the day)depend son how cold the rest of the room is) and 25-27C during the night. I am working to get a stat but not all of us can afford it really. £15 a week is not a lot when I have to save up for a new viv to separate the 2 corns I have as I wasn't told to do so by the rep shop near me. Plus I need 2-3 stats. I'm also down in money at the moment as I'm paying my mum for something so yes. I am actually looking for a job but currently no luck. Not everyone can afford to spend £20-£25 on a stat straight away. I can't help that I was never told to keep them on a stat till I got on here, I was watching one on eBay but that went for £30 and it was second hand. The rep shop near me does them at £35 for Ministat 100's which is what I'd need. I may be able to get one from my partners work place as they know me and may do it at Trade + VAT + 10% but even then it'll be more than I can afford currently.
My email address is on my profile, send me an email with your address and I will post you a spare stat I have.
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Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2013 : 22:36:53
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1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2013 : 22:49:13
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Originally posted by Donnie
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Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2013 : 22:52:53
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
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Originally posted by Donnie
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1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 14:03:07
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1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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Thorne Walker
Yearling
Canada
642 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 18:03:15
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Originally posted by Donnie
Your stat has been sent via TNT and should be with you on Monday
Wow.. I feel all warm and fuzzy..  Good on you Donnie
@AcidicAngel the poly will insulate the mat from the wood, any heat that gets into the viv will have to go through that insulation. I did a little googleing and found that wood will start to char around 100c which should be well hotter then the mat will get.
Once you get Donnie's stat IMO you should lose the poly between the mat + the viv but keep the one under the mat.
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1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'
My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248 |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 18:15:42
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Originally posted by Thorne Walker
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Originally posted by Donnie
Your stat has been sent via TNT and should be with you on Monday
Wow.. I feel all warm and fuzzy.. Good on you Donnie
@AcidicAngel the poly will insulate the mat from the wood, any heat that gets into the viv will have to go through that insulation. I did a little googleing and found that wood will start to char around 100c which should be well hotter then the mat will get.
Once you get Donnie's stat IMO you should lose the poly between the mat + the viv but keep the one under the mat.
The mat doesn't even get to 40c... I did actually test that with a digital thermometer to make sure the mat was working when I got it. Left it running over night with a digital thermometer and it got to about 38c and stayed at that. The viv heats to 30c during the day, testing with a digital thermometer so I know it's accurate. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Thorne Walker
Yearling
Canada
642 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 20:14:38
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
The mat doesn't even get to 40c... I did actually test that with a digital thermometer to make sure the mat was working when I got it. Left it running over night with a digital thermometer and it got to about 38c and stayed at that. The viv heats to 30c during the day, testing with a digital thermometer so I know it's accurate.
So right there you see the effect the poly is having. If the mat is @ 38c and the viv is getting to 30 then almost 25% of the thermal energy is being dissipated rather then going into your viv.
IMO it's exactly what you want now given that 38c is way to hot for a corn but once you stat that thing you can manage your top temp without having to dump the heat into the poly/room rather then the viv |
1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'
My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248 |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 18/01/2013 : 21:16:20
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Originally posted by Thorne Walker
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Originally posted by AcidicAngel
The mat doesn't even get to 40c... I did actually test that with a digital thermometer to make sure the mat was working when I got it. Left it running over night with a digital thermometer and it got to about 38c and stayed at that. The viv heats to 30c during the day, testing with a digital thermometer so I know it's accurate.
So right there you see the effect the poly is having. If the mat is @ 38c and the viv is getting to 30 then almost 25% of the thermal energy is being dissipated rather then going into your viv.
IMO it's exactly what you want now given that 38c is way to hot for a corn but once you stat that thing you can manage your top temp without having to dump the heat into the poly/room rather then the viv
The 38C is without the poly... That's just the mat plugged in, in a RUB with a Temperature Probes from a Digital Thermometer on it... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Thorne Walker
Yearling
Canada
642 Posts |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2013 : 01:21:36
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Originally posted by Thorne Walker
yup.. but I'm sure that the mat is getting to about the same temperature in your current setup, it's just better insulated from the thermometer
I know, that's what I was saying. The mat only reaches 38C max.. I thought mats got hotter than this? |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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