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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2012 :  14:02:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Next year I plan to decorate the lounge. All the reps bar two live in the lounge. So, I thought I could put them all in RUBS and move them upstairs, it will be summer time so won't worry about heating and won't feed them while they are there. Want I want to know is how long will it be before I can safely move them back to the vivs in the lounge?

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Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

Jayclk
Hatchling

United Kingdom
222 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2012 :  14:13:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i would of thought that most of the modern paints and solvents are pretty safe nowadays as they dont have fumes for very long at all

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0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
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0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2012 :  17:08:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm very paranoid so personally I would leave them until you can't smell the fumes anymore, but at least 48hours. Although jayclk is probably right and most paints probably aren't very harmful anymore, I would still be concerned that they may be harmful to reptiles.

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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2012 :  18:25:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually most paints have a ton of volatile organic compounds and will off gas for weeks/months/years.

You can find 'Low VOC' paint if you go looking for it, I use a local company called Boomerang.

http://www.epa.gov/iaq/voc.html

http://www.diyadvice.com/diy/painting/paint/chemistry/

Figure minimum 48 hrs depending on temperature and ventalation...

The pressed wood used for viv's often is also a potent source of things like formaldehyde so snakey is getting it anyway, you just want to keep it below a threshold.

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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2012 :  19:40:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm with thorney on this one, only go through approved sources. Things like car paints, acrylic sprays and of course anything with any CFCs in is a definite no. Don't take the risk- if you can smell it, they definitely can, and their respiratory systems are more sensitive.



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0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2012 :  21:22:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So this would be ok http://www.celticsustainables.co.uk/shop/contents/en-uk/p209_Earthborn_ECOPRO_Emulsion.html

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  00:01:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Red123

So this would be ok http://www.celticsustainables.co.uk/shop/contents/en-uk/p209_Earthborn_ECOPRO_Emulsion.html





hits all the high points.. looks good


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Hissyfit
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2214 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2012 :  10:58:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I decorated my daughter's room during the Summer. The 3 snakes are in her room, OH is scared of snakes, so moving them into our room was out of the question. I bought breath easy paint by Dulux, and gloss that claimed to be fast drying & odourless...it was amazing, touch dry within the hour and no smell at all. Never had a problem with fumes, and the snakes were fine


Edited by - Hissyfit on 13/12/2012 09:41:31
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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 13/12/2012 :  01:25:26  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Never had a problem decorating. Just do it in the summer when u can leave windows open so plenty of fresh air coming in.



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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 13/12/2012 :  13:16:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was the same I was using some pretty fume ridden paints and varnishes on the vivarium stack, I was high as a kite painting it but I just stuck the snakes in another room and aired the room until the smell went away (3 days) and left it a whole week to ensure everything was dry and fume free. A bit of decorating won't do any harm with the snakes out of the immediate vicinity.

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