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serena_08
Yearling

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  15:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Head: No yellow, pinky cheeks


Body:


Top Ventral pattern:


Bottom half Ventral pattern:

1.0.0 Corn: D-Bo (Amel)
1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
0.1.0 MBK: Rosa
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: Zuko
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Kobe
0.0.1 Fire Bellied Toad: Snoop
1.1.0 Cats: Penny and Sheldon
1.0.0 Staffy: MooMoo


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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  18:13:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like it might be masque, judging by the white running down his belly :)

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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serena_08
Yearling

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  18:51:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What do you mean 'masque'? And she's a she :) lol

1.0.0 Corn: D-Bo (Amel)
1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
0.1.0 MBK: Rosa
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: Zuko
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Kobe
0.0.1 Fire Bellied Toad: Snoop
1.1.0 Cats: Penny and Sheldon
1.0.0 Staffy: MooMoo


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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  19:23:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Masque is a gene that, if I remember well, gives a broken or grey head pattern and a white line running through the belly checkers (so they never connect). Found this picture of a masque anery, looks like it's slightly pinkish on the head as well (not sure if it's related)

http://www.cccorns.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69401&postcount=2

the second picture :)

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)

Edited by - Isoldael on 10/11/2012 19:24:29
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  19:39:37  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
What colour is the eye? It's a bit hard to tell in the first picture

1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python
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serena_08
Yearling

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  19:48:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Donnie: it's a grey ish colour, sometimes looks blue? She's not a social player so it's really difficult to get her still enough to inspect properly lol.

Isodael: She is more brownish/grey on the saddles than that one, and the white line on the ventral only goes down so far and then turns into the 'diffused' look? I don't understand enough haha

1.0.0 Corn: D-Bo (Amel)
1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
0.1.0 MBK: Rosa
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: Zuko
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Kobe
0.0.1 Fire Bellied Toad: Snoop
1.1.0 Cats: Penny and Sheldon
1.0.0 Staffy: MooMoo


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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  20:23:59  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I am tempted to say it is a charcoal (anery B). Certain it is not carrying the diffused mutation as she has ventral pattern and diffused removes it completely.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  20:29:51  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
looks like a ghost to me


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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  21:55:06  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It will be a ghost then

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serena_08
Yearling

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2012 :  21:58:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lol, thanks :) does that count for her belly too? I don't mean her belly not ghost as well lol I mean is her ventral normal for a ghost

1.0.0 Corn: D-Bo (Amel)
1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
0.1.0 MBK: Rosa
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: Zuko
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Kobe
0.0.1 Fire Bellied Toad: Snoop
1.1.0 Cats: Penny and Sheldon
1.0.0 Staffy: MooMoo


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manda88
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1002 Posts

Posted - 15/11/2012 :  10:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolute image of my charcoal, even has the same belly!



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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 15/11/2012 :  13:26:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was going to suggest Charcoal too, but then Eeji jumped in with Ghost and I didn't want to get into trouble :P



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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Criminal Nails
Hatchling

Spain
275 Posts

Posted - 15/11/2012 :  15:39:34  Show Profile  Visit Criminal Nails's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My ghost definitely does not have this pattern on her belly! I had the idea same morph = same belly pattern, but obviously I was wrong! Plus my Discordia has some yellow on her cheeks and neck... and more brown. Maybe I am the one to have the morph wrong, haha!

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manda88
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1002 Posts

Posted - 15/11/2012 :  16:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Discordia is without a doubt a ghost and I'd put money on Serena's corn being a charcoal, too black and grey to be a ghost in my opinion



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Criminal Nails
Hatchling

Spain
275 Posts

Posted - 15/11/2012 :  17:15:15  Show Profile  Visit Criminal Nails's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by manda88

Discordia is without a doubt a ghost and I'd put money on Serena's corn being a charcoal, too black and grey to be a ghost in my opinion


I'd also say so from the first picture! And thanks for putting my doubts at rest ;)

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 16/11/2012 :  20:50:55  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
lol, I'm no good at grey morphs :D

Charcoal is a good call, have you got a good eye photo? Its the clear line through the belly chequers that made me think hypo is present (could still be phantom, although maybe too dark?)


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serena_08
Yearling

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 16/11/2012 :  22:08:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't at mo, she was fed a couple of days ago so when she's pooped I'll pluck her out! Any other pictures you'd like to help decide?

1.0.0 Corn: D-Bo (Amel)
1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
0.1.0 MBK: Rosa
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: Zuko
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Kobe
0.0.1 Fire Bellied Toad: Snoop
1.1.0 Cats: Penny and Sheldon
1.0.0 Staffy: MooMoo


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manda88
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1002 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  09:21:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yours has a lighter head than mine but other than that I think they're extremely similar!!





Mine's at least charcoal, he might be anery charcoal, gonna prove him this season



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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2331 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  13:30:08  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I woulda gone for charocal too lol but didnt want to look like a numpty disputeing the almighty eeji whose opinion i respect and value lol he looks just like my gandalf


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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2012 :  20:06:13  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paulie78

I woulda gone for charocal too lol but didnt want to look like a numpty disputeing the almighty eeji whose opinion i respect and value lol he looks just like my gandalf



I'm still hopeless at grey morphs though


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LarkaDawg
Hatchling

442 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2012 :  19:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like charcoal to me! Not sure what the white belly stripe means. But when I looked at the masque photos on that link, the head pattern for a masque seems distinct, and this snake doesn't appear to have it. Seeing as Manda's snake also has the belly thing, and it is not masque (I don't think?) this could indicate that it is of similar genetics to Manda's snakeh.
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