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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
 Posted - 23/10/2012 : 10:03:05
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So I got a lovely present from my boyfriend over the weekend...
He knows me too well! Meet Khaleesi the female Butter Motley het gold dust, stripe.
I promise I wasn't holding her immediately, I got her out the tub to put into her new RUB and she just invited herself up my arm... 
Love her to pieces, I've been going on about one ever since I got my first Amel three months ago. Everytime my boyfriend asks me a question, "butter motley" has been the answer, even if it doesn't make sense lol! So I guess he just got so fed up he finally got me one 
Quick question though - because her dad was a gold dust does this mean she's not a real corn snake? As gold dust is a hybrid? And how does this affect me possibly breeding her in the future? I think there's abit of a debate on whether its ok to breed hybrids or not, but what's the general thoughts? Obviously this breeder thought it was ok!
And lastly, just an update on Blaze. She is only a week older than Khaleesi, and at 4months old her white bits have just started to turn orange:
Thanks guys! |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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Dalymad2
Hatchling
United Kingdom
301 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 10:39:00
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| Hi can`t help with your questions, but thats two good looking snakes you have there. |
1.0.0 CORN- FRED ( CAROLINA)
1.0.0 CORN- BARNEY (CAROLINA)
0.1.0 CORN- SNOWDROP (SNOW)
1.0.0 DALMATIAN- SOLO
0.1.0 DALMATIAN- METOO
0.1.0 COLLIE CROSS- LILY
0.1.0 CAT-SOOKIE
0.1.0 AFRICAN GREY PARROT- SPIRIT |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 10:58:42
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Both are very pretty!!! Congrats! 
As for the breeding you are correct she is cross rat snake making her a hybrid, there are a lot of opinions on breeding her but you can do it just make sure you explain to any potential buyers of the offspring that they are hybrids too, what being a hybrid means and that if they ever breed their hatchlings they are required to state this too |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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Kath
Yearling
United Kingdom
697 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 10:59:27
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They're gorgeous!  |
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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 11:08:39
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| Thanks guys :) I'm really chuffed with them, officially have the start of my collection hehe! And thanks for clearing it up Lozzy. The breeder was very naughty then as he didn't actually tell me gold dust is a hybrid, I started researching Khaleesi's hets on Ians Vivarium and found out myself! Obviously breeding either of them is a long way off but the thought is always in the back of my head. Would love to try it one day. But Khaleesi being hybrid really buggers up the morph calculator as there is no option for gold dust so I can't see what I could get from her! Anybody know how to work out any potential matings?! |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 11:27:36
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What stunning snakes!
I'm no good at morphs but we do have some real whizzes on here that will be able to help you.
It probably also depends on any hets the amel has? |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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Jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 11:33:15
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| Beautiful little snakes you got there! |
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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 11:57:29
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| Yeh morphs/genes/hets confuse me a little, I'm lost without the help of the calculator! But hopefully I'll learn along the way. I didn't mean to breed her to my amel as they are both female :) but I was going to base my next snake on whatever would make an interesting breeding pair for the future! As she is het stripe I would like a stripe, but not sure of which colour would make a good pairing? Any fun suggestions?! |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 11:59:09
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| Herriotfan I bet your caramel stripe and anery motley stripe are beautiful things! Any pics anywhere? |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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Leasha
Hatchling
Netherlands
246 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 13:53:28
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Woow!
Those colours are lushhh :0
Soooo cute :3 |
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 16:59:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Blaze14
Yeh morphs/genes/hets confuse me a little, I'm lost without the help of the calculator! But hopefully I'll learn along the way. I didn't mean to breed her to my amel as they are both female :) but I was going to base my next snake on whatever would make an interesting breeding pair for the future! As she is het stripe I would like a stripe, but not sure of which colour would make a good pairing? Any fun suggestions?!
If you post and ask in the breeding section you should get some suggestions, i just know about the hybrid situation as my little boy is one too |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey |
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TOM_BEASTY
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 18:58:50
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| I want one, so lovely!! That's my Xmas present is sorted then ;) |
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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 19:20:39
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| Hehe I'm hoping to get another one for xmas too :p there's no stopping me now!! Lozzy I love the ultramel anerys! Think I will post in the breeding section as well at some point, thanks! |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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monalisa70
Hatchling
United Kingdom
269 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 19:40:46
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| He is stunning ,i love butter motleys |
4.2.5 corns
2.1.0 royals
1 BCI
1 MBK |
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 20:50:58
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| Game of Thrones? Really gorgeous, my OH would NEVER get me a gift that great |
     
0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 21:18:22
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| Lucky you, I wish my hubby would do that.. no chance :-( |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 22:18:37
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gold dust is in the corn calc ;) is ultramel and caramel. However Kaleesi being a butter motley is amel and caramel ;) so cant figure out why you would need the golddust for the calc.
so for potential breedings just use caramel amel motley ;)
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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 23:15:17
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Yes Game of Thrones :D love it! Thinking that might be my name theme from now on.
Well the boyfriend was in the dog house slightly so he was only worming his way out of it lol. But very nicely done!
Aaah ultramel and caramel, I see! Oh it just gives you the option to put their hets into the calc as well, so as she is het gold dust I was trying to put that in! |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 23:19:53
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| no your butter motley is just that there is no hets from the golddust, butter being amel and caramel and with golddust being ultramel and caramel, you cant have an amel caramel (butter) het ultra. amel and ultra take up the same space on the gene ladder so only amel is present with this being a butter. if ultra was in the mix here this wold be a golddust motley ;) |
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Blaze14
Egg
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 23:24:22
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| Ooo I see, breeder clearly needs to learn this too then! Just going on what he's told me. He says she's het for stripe too so I hope that's true! Will I need to breed her with an actual stripe to get that gene to show? |
0.1 Amel Corn Snake - Blaze
0.1 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Khaleesi
1.0 Chihuahua - Rocky
0.0.1 Tropical Fish Tank |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 23:27:31
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thought it was a butter motley? suppose it could be a visual motley but really het for stripe and motley. In all honesty i would look to breed to a motley, as i dont understand where this breeder is coming from with his lack of genetic understanding.
If itds a true motley cant het stripe for the same reason as the amel and ultra genes as above |
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Finally have my Butter Motley!! :)
