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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
 Posted - 18/10/2012 : 16:04:32
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Last year without knowing I unfortunately put which I thought was 2 females together and one morning when I came to check on them I came across 11 eggs, unfortunately after a a month or so they were all infertile.In breeding season next year I am planning to breed the two together again. I put the eggs in dampened perlite in a polystyrene box. In a spare tank underneath a spotlight at about 30c. Did I do anything wrong and is the same set-up suitable for next time?!? Was I just unlucky, I was so excited and they were due for yesterday which put a downer on my day:( please help!
((((Still trying to convince my mum and dad that having more snakes is good for preparing for my GSCE's - god knows how it's working;) )))) |
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2331 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2012 : 16:42:15
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| Ive never heard of anyone doing it this way not sure how succesfull or accurate it would be most people either use heat cable or a mat inside the box suspend the box containing the eggs a few inchs above the heat source on an improvised rack/shelf type device and attach the mat to a stat i really cant see a spotlight over a polybox acheiving stable consistent temps inside but thats just me lol |
6.8.0 Corn Snakes http://buzzsprehistoricpets.yolasite.com/
1.1.0 Royal
0.2.0 Chinchillas
1.1.0 Cats
1.1.0 Birds
0.0.2 Fishtanks
0.0.1 Cali Kingsnake
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2012 : 13:13:05
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It's not advised to use a makeshif incubator.
I once used a viv for mine and the results were very poor.
Theres a thread that tells you how to make a polystyrene incubator which I think would be much more effective. (thats what im doing this season)
Also, are you sure they were fertile to begin with?
It seems that after only a month in what you've described as quite average conditions shouldn't have killed them..
I'd do some serious research (buy Kathy Love's book!) before this coming season, and do it by the book as much as you can.
I also prefer to incubate at lower temperatures than what is usually used, I am incubating at about 78F this year as I have read evidence that longer incubation results in bigger, healthier babies and considerably less non-feeders.
Good luck, and keep asking questions! |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2012 : 13:14:56
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oh, ill just add that high temperatures are much more dangerous than low ones. Low temps (within reason) will result in longer incubation times without effecting the health of the baby.
Whereas higher temperatures, as Eeji said can prove fatal after only a few hours of exposure. |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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Isoldael
Yearling
Netherlands
999 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2012 : 13:47:59
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| I used a plastic boiled-egg-bucket (the irony) with airholes in it, and put it into a viv. The heat lamp and the fact that the heat was trapped inside the bucket made it a constant 28-29 degrees. I've had no trouble at all with the incubating so far except with some eggs that weren't fertile in the first place, so I suppose it's possible with a lamp :). Like the others said, just make sure your humidity and temp are right, and that the eggs were fertile in the first place. Remember, a female can lay eggs even if she hasn't been in contact with a male at all! |
1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2012 : 14:06:14
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| Are you sure of the genders of your snakes? It's just that females can sometimes decide to lay infertile eggs without being mated or with a male. What did the eggs look like? Were they fertile or were they slugs? |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2012 : 16:47:28
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This is how I first found them, as it came as such a shock I had no idea what to do, so put them in a spare tank and marked them on the right way up as i read on a forum on here |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 22/10/2012 : 17:42:47
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| They looked perfectly fine to me and I compared them to healthy eggs on here. |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 22/10/2012 : 19:59:48
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| they look good to me. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 22/10/2012 : 20:42:06
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| What do they look like now? Have you candles them? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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a33272
our battery charger
United Kingdom
3063 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 13:18:35
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| I think the issue that has been missed here is the eggs where put in a polystyrene box under a lamp.... The polystyrene box would of acted as an insulater, so the eggs proberly didnt get anywhere near warm enough. |
    
0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 15:15:15
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| Georgina, they all went mouldy:( thanks a33272, it wasn't like these eggs were planned and I hadn't even researched anything about cornsnake eggs as at that time I didn't want to breed them. But I have managed to convince the parents of doing this instead of buying snakes is much better:-) |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2012 : 17:40:56
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| Ive got two different ways of making an incubator on here ill find them for you |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2012 : 15:20:17
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Originally posted by Emmerz
This is how I first found them, as it came as such a shock I had no idea what to do, so put them in a spare tank and marked them on the right way up as i read on a forum on here
I'd advise you use pencil to mark them too,
the pen you have used looks like wet ink, and as the eggs absorb water they will absorb some of the ink and may harm the snake.
I doubt that is why they died, but just a tip :) |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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Could someone help in advance please?!
