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Raksha
Hatchling
United Kingdom
105 Posts |
 Posted - 07/08/2012 : 00:51:25
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ok hath my frinds are in two minds about this so i thourt it would be a good debate to have over here
my neptheu is 3 years old and wanted to see my snakes.
so i invited him over on a feeding day to watch the annacondas and corn eat.
i got them out let him have a stroke of them and a feel (wont let him hold them as the corn only a tiny one and the anaconds do have a very strong grip for there size (neraly 3 ft so geting to the point were i need a second handler incase they turn.)
now after i let him stroke them i showed him the mice and feed them infront of him his mum was at the side of me while i did this.
now my neptheu was fine with it and so was my sister.
my girlfriend thourt it was wrong to show him somthing that grathic.
same as a few of my friends. whats your oppion.
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pets list
1 Cat "Cheeky"
2 Yellow Anacondas "Shadow & Arrow"
1 Corn Snake "Autumn"
1 Tarantula "Legs"
1 Scorpion "Sub-Zero"
2 Guinea pigs "dog and Sephiroth"
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NexivRed
Yearling
United Kingdom
551 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 01:14:03
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I don't think there's anything wrong with showing children how nature works. It's only when adults put "scary" or "gross" or "wrong" spins on it that children develop issues over it.
My 2.5 year old has watched me feed our snake a defrosted mouse, our cats chicken wings, and our greyhound freshly killed, whole rabbits. He knew they were rabbits (and likes rabbits), but he can comprehend that those rabbits were the dog's food and it's important for animals to eat.
My only issue is with children being witness to things they would be fearful of in a primal sense. Those are the sorts of images that can cause them problems when they're older. A snake eating a mouse contains nothing a child need be fearful of. It's not even bloody, and only once a child has comprehension of mortality and death will he even find blood disturbing. At 3 he could, but blood is a fact of life. |
R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios |
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Jenn
Hatchling
Canada
204 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 03:15:39
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| I have 5 kids and 6 snakes, My 2/3/6/10 and 19 year olds like watching them feed, its a "sport" of sorts to see who will finish first, the children know they eat mice and my older snakes eat live or frozen, sometimes we go buy "snake snacks" and they fight over who can carry it home to the snakes... nothing wrong with the knowledge of where they get thier food. I am a Veterinary assistant and I love all animals, but facts are facts that some animals die for others to eat, something that all kids should know, do they know where steak or hamburger comes from? do they wonder why thier food is sometimes called chicken? |
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coxymk2
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1245 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 08:02:39
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| At times people amaze me they let small children watch cats and dogs eat but think its wrong for them to watch snakes eat mice. What do they thinktheir animals eat. It helps all children to learn that all creatures eat different things in order to live. |
0.0.1 ANERY (Liquorice)
0.0.1 CAROLINA (Bangle)
0.0.1 AMEL (Boozer)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 08:33:52
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| I have no problem with any child watching, what is at the end of the day, nature. I wonder how many parents hide the fact that the sausage their child has just eaten is from a dead pig? I guess maybe you have to be an animal lover to want to show your kids how animals survive? My sister use to tell her children that an empty snail shell was a sign that the snail had got to big for its shell and crawled off to find a larger shell!! She did want them to tell them that a bird had eaten the snail in case they got upset. Some people seem very strange sometimes. I do think honesty is the best policy when it comes to children and animals feeding/behaviour, afterall they are the future of our pets and I for one want my kids to respect all animals and treat them accordingly. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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viraleye
Yearling
United Kingdom
695 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 10:29:50
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There's nothing graphic really. If a mouse was to split and blood and guts espurt out everywhere then maybe I'd draw their attention elsewhere.
It's part of the life cycle for snakes and I'm sure they've seen worse already |
1.0.0 Cyrus - Amel het Anery ph Hypo - CURRENTLY AWOL
0.1.0 Diamond - Avalanche ph Charcoal, Hypo
1.0.0 Garland - Bloodred het Hypo
1.0.0 Pinball - Carolina
0.1.0 Casey - Hypo Lavender Stripe het Amel
0.0.1 - No Name Yet - Crested Gecko |
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 11:22:51
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My 4 year old loves watching them eat. He's fascinated by the way they dislocate their jaws and eat something so much bigger than themselves.
My opinion is that children should know what the real world is like, I taught all my kids where there food comes from as soon as they were old enough to talk about it. When my 4 year old sees a cow these days he says things like "there's next sundays dinner daddy".
But each to their own i suppose, every parent and child are different and what works for one could totally freak out another! |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2331 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 11:48:01
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| Its nature and i dont think theres anything wrong with it at all however if the kids sensitive i might not show them but i certainly dont liem to any kids that ask me what i feed mine a few have asked to see the mice and i show them i explain they were never pet mice and that there is a difference between animals as food and animals as pets and how nature has a food chain |
6.8.0 Corn Snakes http://buzzsprehistoricpets.yolasite.com/
1.1.0 Royal
0.2.0 Chinchillas
1.1.0 Cats
1.1.0 Birds
0.0.2 Fishtanks
0.0.1 Cali Kingsnake
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NexivRed
Yearling
United Kingdom
551 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 12:59:51
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| One of my father in law's wife's grandchildren was brought up "sensitive", and now he won't eat anything unless he's seen it come out of a Tesco carrier bag. He won't eat the nicest free range, organic roast chicken because it looks like a chicken, but he will eat the cheapest, nastiest, pressure washer made chicken nuggets. |
R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios |
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Rachel
Hatchling
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 15:12:40
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I personally don't let my son (who's going to be 6 before I know it) see feeding time but mainly that's because I do it in the evening when he's asleep..I might next time around though. He's seen pictures I've taken but it's not really the same.
I'll let him hold out a hand and Neidr will go over him, but not on his own. He doesn't hold Nyoka, but that's because I'm still working her out!
Although I will say I took Neidr to preschool with me one day. A few people wanted to hold him.. All the children were fascinated, all gave a little stroke. Every single parent who had seen me since gives me a look and tells their child how brave they are. They simply don't view the world that way. We find a big spider outside and I'm cowering in the corner but they want to understand it more... They make it a home, give it a name, and examine it through these magnifying pots they have.
Sorry I'm rambling! |
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Thorne Walker
Yearling
Canada
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Rachel
Hatchling
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 15:30:55
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I personally don't let my son (who's going to be 6 before I know it) see feeding time but mainly that's because I do it in the evening when he's asleep..I might next time around though. He's seen pictures I've taken but it's not really the same.
I'll let him hold out a hand and Neidr will go over him, but not on his own. He doesn't hold Nyoka, but that's because I'm still working her out!
Although I will say I took Neidr to preschool with me one day. A few people wanted to hold him.. All the children were fascinated, all gave a little stroke. Every single parent who had seen me since gives me a look and tells their child how brave they are. They simply don't view the world that way. We find a big spider outside and I'm cowering in the corner but they want to understand it more... They make it a home, give it a name, and examine it through these magnifying pots they have.
Sorry I'm rambling! |
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Raksha
Hatchling
United Kingdom
105 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 21:11:48
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| well its nice to know that me and my sister have the same opinion on these matters thank you evey one |
pets list
1 Cat "Cheeky"
2 Yellow Anacondas "Shadow & Arrow"
1 Corn Snake "Autumn"
1 Tarantula "Legs"
1 Scorpion "Sub-Zero"
2 Guinea pigs "dog and Sephiroth"
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serena_08
Yearling
United Kingdom
784 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 21:25:24
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| Just don't tell your nephew that it's his pet hamster, it doesn't go down well! |
1.0.0 Corn: D-Bo (Amel)
1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
0.1.0 MBK: Rosa
0.0.1 Leopard Gecko: Zuko
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Kobe
0.0.1 Fire Bellied Toad: Snoop
1.1.0 Cats: Penny and Sheldon
1.0.0 Staffy: MooMoo
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. |
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yola
Hatchling
United Kingdom
171 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 23:26:45
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I had a Blue tongue skink when my daughter was 1 1/2, she started showing an intreast in feeing her so i let her help me, once a week the skink (Sky) got a mouse, she wasnt botherd by this atall.
As she grew up she took to feeding Sky herself, she isnt atall squemish, Sky eventually turned out to be hers lol and she lived to a ripe old age of 15  , but my daughter was heart broken  as she had grown up with her.
I have 3 kiddie winks, my 8yr old son is a bit of a wimp at times and my 2yr old takes everything in his stride, he has held the snakes with supervision from an early age and loves them, he loves them going round his neck lol, he also likes picking bugs up like, may bugs (to my absoulte horror, they scare the poop outta me), spiders, worms that he talks to then goes and feeds the to the chooks lol, lady birds, you name hel pick it up. I have 8 Cats bring home presents including pegions, squirrels, mice, they see the cats (only 3 unuterd, all the rest are done) mate and see the kittens born. there rabbits they see mate and know what comes after (i choose when one of the rabbits can have babies), they see the fantasie frog gobble on a mouse, see the countless snakes i have eat, mate etc etc. They saw my sisters dog have puppi 2wks ago, first time for both my sons but not my daughter, unfortunatly one died. they know things live and die and unfortunatne things happen for animals to die suddunly,but they understand it all.
We have lots of animals and i feel my kids are very very lucky to experience all this and are more understanding of life and what happens.
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With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-) |
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fionaw79
Egg
United Kingdom
83 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2012 : 00:59:45
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fear of snakes is a learnt behaviour, let kids watch, touch, be involved with them before they develop a fear. my ex hubby hates the fact i have snakes, so do a lot of my friends, but at the same time, i have taken my snake to the nursery and the kids love it. i work night shift and if i am working on feeding day, my son takes the mice out the freezer before i get home and he helps with feeding. its a good thing to get the kids involved and teach them, help them learn and stop the fear 
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1.0.0 amel
0.0.1 moonstone
1.0.0 resident loony kid |
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Raksha
Hatchling
United Kingdom
105 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2012 : 10:09:58
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now i have an issuse that my gf cant feed my snakes due toher having guinea pigs.
which means i have to ask a friend of mine to do it |
pets list
1 Cat "Cheeky"
2 Yellow Anacondas "Shadow & Arrow"
1 Corn Snake "Autumn"
1 Tarantula "Legs"
1 Scorpion "Sub-Zero"
2 Guinea pigs "dog and Sephiroth"
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2012 : 13:51:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Raksha
now i have an issuse that my gf cant feed my snakes due toher having guinea pigs.
which means i have to ask a friend of mine to do it
I have guniea pigs and don't have a problem with it. Anything running around is a pet anything stiff in the freezer is food, simple. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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Raksha
Hatchling
United Kingdom
105 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2012 : 10:12:05
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| sadly my other hath the sensitive soul. over sensitiv |
pets list
1 Cat "Cheeky"
2 Yellow Anacondas "Shadow & Arrow"
1 Corn Snake "Autumn"
1 Tarantula "Legs"
1 Scorpion "Sub-Zero"
2 Guinea pigs "dog and Sephiroth"
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