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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2012 :  17:29:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've recently become really interested in acquiring a caramel corn snake in the future, as I think the addition of caramel to other morphs creates some really beautiful snakes. I had a look for pictures of diffused caramels on Ian's Viv morph page, but was surprised that they're just called diffused caramels!
So far every other single trait colour morph has a new name when it's combined with diffused doesn't it? There's:

Granite for anery
Fire for amel
Pewter for charcoal
Plasma for lavender


..and I can understand hypo/ultra/strawberry/lava etc not having a name. But it seems caramel (and also cinder) have been left out!

Should we choose a name for these, frankly, STUNNING snakes?
http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/diffused_caramel/?sid=

I'm so gonna try and get one. And my suggestion for the name is the obvious choice of toffee! :D

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios

Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2012 :  18:04:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was totally just going to suggest toffee
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2012 :  18:45:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cafe o lait?

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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/07/2012 :  18:46:37  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think that there is toffee that is a dominant trait, just waiting to be proven by a few more breedings.

Yep, just found the thread

http://iansvivarium.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=8296&p=65041&hilit=toffee#p65041

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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2012 :  20:46:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boooo, that thing is nowhere near as toffee looking as a diffused caramel!

Fudge is no good as it'll be confusing with fudgesicles, and it's not really dark enough for the name treacle.

Honey would have been a good one cos it's like a fluid dripping down the sides of the snake, but that's already taken. Think honey suits the diffused caramel look better though, and the sunkissed caramel could be beeswax.

So I'm thinking perhaps butterscotch would be good?


I don't think it'd ever be possible to label diffused cinders with one name as there's an amazing variation of colours. I think you can get ones with more grey and ones with more red, so I suppose you could nickname them ash and ember respectively? :)

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/07/2012 :  22:18:09  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
is there really a need for a name? naming rights usually goes to the first to produce a morph and then only sticks if it gains popular use.

The way things are going at the moment there seems to be 'morph' names cropping up for individual breeders lines and they are getting increasingly silly.


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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 30/07/2012 :  23:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a weird feeling that opinion would crop up. It's not like I'm suggesting a nickname for some random looking specifically bred morph like how candycane works with amels. Every other base colour morph has a nickname and I think caramel should get one too. Why not? It's just shorthand at the end of the day isn't it.

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios

Edited by - NexivRed on 30/07/2012 23:55:44
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 31/07/2012 :  00:56:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its about a half half split, not all double trait corns have other names other than the genes. and as eeji has said some of the names being banded about just now are just mental, for example hypo amel (hybino) ludicrous lol.


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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 31/07/2012 :  02:17:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hybino? That's ridiculous and just making up a name for the sake of it. No, I'm not on board with that :P

It was just because caramel is one of the major morphs; one of the base colours of corn snakes. "one of the biggies" if you will. And all the others (apart from cinder but that's still relatively new and random) have a morph name when they are diffused. Caramel is the odd one out.

Also, I think it will help phase out using the term bloodred to define diffused snakes.

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios

Edited by - NexivRed on 31/07/2012 02:21:34
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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1315 Posts

Posted - 31/07/2012 :  06:25:43  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gmac

its about a half half split, not all double trait corns have other names other than the genes. and as eeji has said some of the names being banded about just now are just mental, for example hypo amel (hybino) ludicrous lol.



It may be a daft name, but I can see where this is coming from, hypo albino = hybino.

Ameretto is the one that really gets on my nerves (used to be Peach, think that is still on the corncalc). What would they call a diffused one of these? Blameretto?



Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 31/07/2012 :  10:15:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wish all the morphs would just be named after their genes, would make everything so much less confusing for beginners :p

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 31/07/2012 :  19:54:18  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if you want to see silly take a look at royal python morph names, even the single base morphs are daft beyond belief and do nothing to give any clue what they look like :D


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reptiledanny
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1809 Posts

Posted - 31/07/2012 :  22:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

if you want to see silly take a look at royal python morph names, even the single base morphs are daft beyond belief and do nothing to give any clue what they look like :D



now come on eeji, i ahve to be the defendant of the royals, none of them are really that stupid.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/butter-champagne-ghost/


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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2012 :  20:41:43  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
that made me lol! I've never heard that one before


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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2012 :  20:44:32  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
LOL thats funny!! Hell of a snake tho

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0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
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