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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
 Posted - 12/07/2012 : 15:04:14
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Hi :) apparently there is no such thing as a stupid question so I'll ask one.
I have set up my new vivs for my babies who are coming home to me next week. I have stats and mats set up and digital thermometers. I know i need to keep the warm end of the viv around 29degs. So here's my question - i get a max and min reading off my termometers and the temp at the warm end fluctuates betwee 27degs and 33 degs as when the stat is on the mat heats up (to 33degs), mat hits temperature and switches off mat, mat cools down so temp drops (to approx 27degs).
Does this sound ok to you guys as you have far more experience than me, i just want my snake homes to be ok for the new arrivals.
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1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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Lozzy
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1556 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 15:22:58
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| 33 degrees is too high, it should be 27 - 30 tho i don't like to go over 29 (thats just personal preference), try turning your stat down:) |
0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 15:35:58
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| if i turn the stat down the temps vary between 24 and 30. There always seems to be a 6degree gap between min and max temps recorded |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 15:46:32
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| 24-30 is better than 27-33 |
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:09:50
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| Thanks Kev, does anyone else have the same 'issue'? |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:12:26
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| i use habistat mat stats, they fluctuate by 3 degrees |
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a33272
our battery charger
United Kingdom
3063 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:20:42
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That's alot of variation even for an on/off stat. How do you have it all set up.
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0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:26:57
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| Heat mat is under a sheet of glass (Monkfield terrarium) stat probe and termometer probe are together on top of the glass ubove the centre of the mat. The stat was originally set at 29degs which gave me my original results so I assumed that the variation between 27 and 33 degs meant the average would be 30 degs (halfway between the 2 temp measurements). I set it up based on images and threads on here regarding best places to put stat probes and thermometers. They are exo terra thermometers and from what i've read on here they aren't always the most reliable. |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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rachey
Hatchling
United Kingdom
127 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:35:17
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i get a good 5-6 degree variation with my stat i know that it shouldnt go above 30c
i think most stats do tend to fluctuate abit
someone with more experience can probably say more than i can but aslong as your on the lower side of 30 you should be ok |
0.1.0 caramel corn - cass
1.0.0 collie mix dog - leo
1.3.0 DSH cats - chico, kiera, CJ, Domino
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:40:51
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| cool, I'll adjust until the thermometer doesn't read over 30. i was just worried that it might get too cold during the 'cool down phase' before the stat kicks the mat back in to life. |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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rachey
Hatchling
United Kingdom
127 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:44:20
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| it never seems to bother my little hatchie she eats and poos fine still not had a shed from her yet as ive just had her a couple of weeks cant wait for my first shed :) and i wish you luck with your new snakie! |
0.1.0 caramel corn - cass
1.0.0 collie mix dog - leo
1.3.0 DSH cats - chico, kiera, CJ, Domino
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a33272
our battery charger
United Kingdom
3063 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:47:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Sleeper341
Heat mat is under a sheet of glass (Monkfield terrarium) stat probe and termometer probe are together on top of the glass ubove the centre of the mat. The stat was originally set at 29degs which gave me my original results so I assumed that the variation between 27 and 33 degs meant the average would be 30 degs (halfway between the 2 temp measurements). I set it up based on images and threads on here regarding best places to put stat probes and thermometers. They are exo terra thermometers and from what i've read on here they aren't always the most reliable.
don't they have 2 bits of glass, that the mat goes between..
I remember someone having similer issues with a monkfield before |
0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:50:41
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| Yes they do have 2 sheets of glass, the matt is sandwiched between them as it should be. |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 16:59:43
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right, the temp just hit 30degs and i tweeked the stat a tiny amount so that it switched off. Just have to wait and see how low it goes before it kicks in again.
Out of interest, what would you recommend as the most accurate thermometer just in case it is the exo terra's not being accurate? |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 17:15:58
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I had a thought, I have an infra red temp gun that i use for tuning Nitro RC cars and monitoring engine temps. I just took a reading in the viv and although the digital thermometer read about 27.5 the infrared had it pegged at 28.6
I need to leave it alone for the night now and I'll try more infra red readings in the morning. I keep opening up the viv so it's losing heat more quickly that would usually be retained if it was kept closed. |
1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 17:58:11
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| Simple answer is to get a pulse stat, far more sensitive and only vary by around 0.2 of a degree, do agree with a33 that's a lot of variation. |
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0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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a2c7
Hatchling
United Kingdom
320 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 18:21:54
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Those on/off stats are like that anyway - ours are set so they don't go over 29degrees but they drop to ~25 before they kick in again. Also I found out (after advice from someone on the forums here) that every time you move them they change settings slightly and will take a few days to settle back down again.
We have our digital thermometers visible all the time in all our vivs, very handy if we knock the stat a bit or the weather changes and the flat gets warmer/cooler.
We do have a digital on/off stat as well, which allows us to set how many degrees the temperature can drop before it turns on again, it's very handy and has an alarm if the temperature goes too high or too low. It did cost quite a bit more than the standard ones, but it was all the shop had when we needed one urgently. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 18:33:56
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I have all mine in monkfield vivs, I use lucky rep mats and habistat mat stats and mine never flucuate more than a degree. If your viv is by a door or a window it can affect the mats a stats. X
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0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
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