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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
 Posted - 24/06/2012 : 15:18:42
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I really am sorry about so many morph questions from me but this is for my partner.
She got sold this female corn snake as a Caramel. We then asked a few snake breeders and apparently she's an Amber. Just looked at Ians Vivarium and she hasn't got the right eye colour to be an Amber... Her eyes are a caramel brown colour, not a speckled greyish.
Sorry this isn't the best picture she's quite active so it's the only one I've got that shows her in some form of detail.
She's about 4ft long.
Thanks and once again sorry for all the morph questions. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 15:33:03
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| id go with normal. xx |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 15:39:25
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Originally posted by Georgina
id go with normal. xx
Normal?
She's a yellowy amber colour... Also her belly checkers aren't them same, I'll try getting a picture ASAP but it depends on when I next go over. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 15:53:20
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| what do you mean the belly chequers arnt the same? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 15:55:26
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They're full black with little specks of white in them...
Her belly is literally black and white as far as I remember from last time I saw her, not other colour at all. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 16:02:05
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i have a normal with nearly all orange belly chequers and one with all black lol
someone more knowing will be along soon im sure x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 16:14:10
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I'll get a better picture of her at some point. All I know is she's at the specialists at the minute because she hasn't eaten for about 8 weeks and my Partner is getting worried for no reason, mine went 9-10 weeks without food but I just kept trying her every 2-3 weeks.
Apparently it could be because she's living with a 3ft male who is perfectly fine and eating every week. I've told her that Co-Habbing them whilst both are still under 4.5-5ft long isn't a good idea but they've not bred which I find weird since they're both at breeding age and weight... I reckon the 'female' is actually male as she's very male in behavior. Also, she's only ever been popped, never probed. The male was probbed as 6 scales.
She has given the female a box with vermiculite in for her to lay in if she needs to and separated the male from her for 5 weeks but nothing. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Spreebok
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1135 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 16:21:50
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Certainly not normal, it's hard to tell from the photo, but she looks like a caramel on the paler end of the scale to me.
Also, not eating could be sign of her being gravid. If she's been kept with a male, it's very likely. |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 16:26:42
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| That's the thing, like I say she's not eaten since before my Partner got her. My partner got her 7 weeks a go and she hadn't eaten for a week before that but we put that down to the fact that she was shedding... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Spreebok
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1135 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 22:10:12
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| That could indeed be a pre-lay shed, the signs are certainly there. Kept with a male, shed and has gone of her food. |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 22:20:42
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She wasn't with a male before my partner got her and she shed before my partner got her.
Plus the shed was 8 weeks ago... Se went off her food just before she shed whilst still in the shop, in the shop she was alone and since has never come back on her food. Even before my partner got the male, which was sold as a defo female, we only found out about3-4 weeks a go... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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Dancross0
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1315 Posts |
Posted - 24/06/2012 : 22:21:12
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She is either a very light caramel or an amber, which is caramel and hypo.
I'm going with amber. Looking through the pics on Ians Viv, a lot of the ambers have the same colouring and eye shade as this. |
Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel
Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 25/06/2012 : 01:34:51
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| Looking at her eyes they're the same as Caramel as her's are a golden-browny-caramel colour whereas Amber's have a greyish colour... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 25/06/2012 : 08:34:56
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| looks caramel to me |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2012 : 13:18:28
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| Thanks Everyone, I'll try getting a better pic if needed but if not then we'll settle with Caramel. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2012 : 19:22:10
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quote:
Originally posted by AcidicAngel
quote:
Originally posted by Georgina
id go with normal. xx
Normal?
She's a yellowy amber colour... Also her belly checkers aren't them same, I'll try getting a picture ASAP but it depends on when I next go over.
There's a whole variety of colours that are still classed as normal.. no two snakes of the same morph are a like.
But I think you'll need more pictures for us to give a proper answer.
From that one picture id say caramel. |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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Edited by - QueenVic on 26/06/2012 19:23:09 |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2012 : 01:07:29
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quote:
Originally posted by QueenVic
quote:
Originally posted by AcidicAngel
quote:
Originally posted by Georgina
id go with normal. xx
Normal?
She's a yellowy amber colour... Also her belly checkers aren't them same, I'll try getting a picture ASAP but it depends on when I next go over.
There's a whole variety of colours that are still classed as normal.. no two snakes of the same morph are a like.
But I think you'll need more pictures for us to give a proper answer.
From that one picture id say caramel.
I'll try and get one when she get's back from the specialists that are trying to get her to eat :) |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2012 : 10:43:05
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| If she's been put in a viv with a male and has stopped eating, she needs to be separated from the male. Some snakes cohab quite happily, others get stressed by it, so I would say 1st thing to do is separate them and go from there. If she starts eating again, stop the cohabbing (if she doesn't then it wasn't necessarily that...) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2012 : 13:15:17
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| My partner is getting rid of the male as she wanted a female and it was sold as a defo female. She stopped eating before my partner got her. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2012 : 18:02:00
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| Sorry, I must have missed that bit. Hope your partner gets her eating soon and she is OK :) |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2012 : 17:35:04
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| Lethaia(The snake in question) died last night. The specialists think she may have had Internal Parasites which means that my partner needs to get the male checked out ASAP. So because of this, she's only keeping the male and no others. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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