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BayBeeCorns
Egg
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
 Posted - 16/06/2012 : 22:27:16
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Hi,
I have had my pair of corns (breeding pair) for just over a year now, i have seen them mate a few times, but mostly at night just before going to bed.
I feed them every 10-14 days normally, and by then they are hungry and ALWAYS ready to eat.
When I got her out just over a week ago to feed her, she was uninterested, and just 'wasn't right'. She was making a strange sneezing kind of sound.
My mum noticed that her 'spine' was showing and thought she may be dehydrated, when i looked this up on the internet it was said to be a sign that she was in fact, 'gravid'.
My mum immediately rung up the vets and booked an appointment which was a few hours later. She was put on antibiotics and I was told she will slowly improve, he said she could be pregnant, but he couldn't be completely sure. On the way home in the car, she started to shed (typical).
No doubt she has improved now! She barely 'sneezes' anymore. BUT.... She is still not eating, which is very strange for her!
About 4 days ago I noticed I could feel very clear bulges from about half way, down to her vent.
You can see where she starts to look more plump about half way down, and I think you can slightly see the outlines of the eggs, but it could just be my imagination
What do you think?
Oh, one last question, is it possible for a corn to be gravid in June? From what I have read, she should have laid her eggs by now?
Thanks for your help!! |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2012 : 22:30:13
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| could well be eggs you can feel. corns can breed any time of year. could of been a pre laying shed which means you need to put a laying box in her viv |
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BayBeeCorns
Egg
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2012 : 22:33:25
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Originally posted by kev 5
could well be eggs you can feel. corns can breed any time of year. could of been a pre laying shed which means you need to put a laying box in her viv
OK, thanks.
Could it be possible for it to be a phantom pregnancy? All the eggs are infertile? or is that unlikely? |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2012 : 22:36:43
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| if you have seen them mate she could be getting ready to lay a fertile clutch of eggs. was it your plan to breed them? |
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BayBeeCorns
Egg
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2012 : 23:01:17
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Originally posted by kev 5
if you have seen them mate she could be getting ready to lay a fertile clutch of eggs. was it your plan to breed them?
Yes, i was planning on breeding them, I just wanted to learn a bit more about it first... Good job I am a fast learner :D |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2012 : 23:52:48
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| Have u got an incubator |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 09:08:09
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| Are they sharing the same viv at the moment? If so your are going to have to sepearte them. |
   
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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Isoldael
Yearling
Netherlands
999 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 10:17:31
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| Not so sure about that. I separated my male and female when Saphira was gravid, but she seemed to refuse to get into the nest box until he was back in the viv :p |
1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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BayBeeCorns
Egg
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 10:59:58
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I haven't got an incubator at the moment, but my mum's boss has chickens and he uses an incubator or his chicken eggs, I was going to ask him to borrow it for a few months, would that be OK?
And about separating them, I separated them a few days ago, and they were both very restless, head butting everything and wanting to come out, so i put him back in and they both went and cuddled in the corner, is it absolutely necessary I take him out? They have been together 24/7 for 4-5 years and have only ever had one clutch before?
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 11:31:12
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When shes laying he will try and get in the nest box stressing her out. If she gets too stressed then she may keep hols of the eggs. So i would simply put a sheet of poly styrene in the middle of the viv and give them half the heat mat each. Also once shes laid he will try mating again. And where she will be so drained again this could stress her again. She may double clutch without re mating about 6 weeks after laying the first clutch. So yeah i wud seperate them on a temp basis if ur happy with them co habitating.
With the incubator the chick egg incubator i dont no how that work but the polystyrene box it only cost the price of a thermostat and a 22w heat mate or 2x7w heat mats and u can get the box from a fish mongers. And its urs to keep. The beer fridge is the same i went to the local dump and got mine coz it had been de gased and then i cut all the pipping out. But either way u no it works for what u need. |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 15:44:07
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Originally posted by Isoldael
Not so sure about that. I separated my male and female when Saphira was gravid, but she seemed to refuse to get into the nest box until he was back in the viv :p
As her moving piece of viv furniture went and made the viv seem bigger. Males are sex pests, and will pester gravid females.
Sankes are not humans, do not apply human emotions to them, they do not cuddle.
Chicken incubators are not ideal if it is the type I am thinking of with a bulb.
I have no idea why your vet would give your snake an injection, what was the reason? Seems a bit pointless. |
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 16:08:21
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| I would have thought that injecting a female carrying any form of offspring wether mammel or reptile i thought it could make the body reject the developing fetus or eggs |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 18:29:49
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Chicken Incubators are no good anyway as Chicken eggs need to be turned every so often so the incubator does this automatically everytime they need it, do this with reptile eggs and they'll die...
About removing the male, I'd say keep him away for a good while. When I breed mine next year I'll be separating him for 4-6 weeks when she's ready to lay. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 18:35:12
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| Personally i seperate my male from when she goes into her pre shed till about 8/9 weeks. If she double clutches then i wait another 4 weeks till she gets a good bit of weight back on |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 18:44:23
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| Marc Pre shed is what I meant, I forgot what it was called... Being a bit slow today... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 18:48:37
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| Lol it is sunday |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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BayBeeCorns
Egg
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 21:28:29
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| Sorry, a bit confused. When did I say the vet gave my snake an injection? I said she was put on antibiotics.... :) |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2012 : 21:32:48
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| dont see the need myself, just sounds like a gravid female |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2012 : 19:16:46
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Originally posted by BayBeeCorns
Sorry, a bit confused. When did I say the vet gave my snake an injection? I said she was put on antibiotics.... :)
Sorry, some antibiotics can be injected got confused. I still don't see why he gave her antibiotics though? Only reason to do this would be if she had an infection of if really ill? |
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
Edited by - Sta~ple on 18/06/2012 19:17:33 |
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BayBeeCorns
Egg
United Kingdom
60 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2012 : 19:30:14
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
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Originally posted by BayBeeCorns
Sorry, a bit confused. When did I say the vet gave my snake an injection? I said she was put on antibiotics.... :)
Sorry, some antibiotics can be injected got confused. I still don't see why he gave her antibiotics though? Only reason to do this would be if she had an infection of if really ill?
He said it was possible she had an RI he took a swab from her nose and it was sent off, I'm waiting to hear from the results. She seems to be better now though. He gave me anti's that she takes orally. But if the tests come back, and she is worse than expected, she will be put on different anti's. |
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Gravid corn? Is this normal?!
