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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  12:08:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, just thought id give you guys an update on my egg. They are doing well and look really good so far... Heres a picture from today at 3 weeks and 5 days since they have been laid...


Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)

paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2331 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  12:15:00  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
looking good fingers crossed for cool hatchlings for you what were the parents ?


6.8.0 Corn Snakes http://buzzsprehistoricpets.yolasite.com/
1.1.0 Royal
0.2.0 Chinchillas
1.1.0 Cats
1.1.0 Birds
0.0.2 Fishtanks
0.0.1 Cali Kingsnake
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  12:29:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks!! Dad is hypo lavender and mum is anery...dont know what hets the pair of them are carrying though :(

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 16/06/2012 :  11:29:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Always awesome if you don't know their hets... means there might be surprises! :D

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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Naomi_Kate
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
33 Posts

Posted - 18/06/2012 :  18:43:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its so exciting having eggs! Ours have only been laid for a week! Its like waiting for Christmas! I cant wait! *Squee!* :D

1.0.0 - BRB
1.0.0 - Pastel Boa
1.0.0 - Coastal Carpet
0.1.0 - Royal Python
0.1.0 - MBK
0.2.0 - Cali King
3.2.5 - Corn Snakes
1.0.0 - Spotted Python
1.0.0 - Trinket Snake
1.0.0 - Peppermint Pacman
0.1.0 - Train Millipede
0.0.2 - GALS/6 Albino GALS
0.1.0 - Shih Tzu Cross
2 Full tanks Of Fancy Fish.
Fruit Beetle Colony.
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 19/06/2012 :  15:37:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Isoldael - Yeah im hopeing that they hatch and they are different to what i am expecting.
Naomi Kate - Yes it is like waiting for christmas, it just isnt coming quick enough!!

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  08:54:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys my eggs have hatched and i have 5 amels and 5 carolinas, can anyone explain in further detail what is going on genetically for me to get these morphs out so i know what the mum and dad are carrying.

Also one of the amels has the last 3rd of its body pattern not so clear to the others, is this a vanishing pattern? Also all the amels have black in there eyes as does my snow from last year?

I will upload some pics tonight if they are out and about.

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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cobweb251
Hatchling

United Kingdom
435 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  09:37:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
great to hear. Looking forward to the pics :)

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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  09:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
will post some up soon was a bit hectic last night so didnt have time :D

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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manda88
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1002 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  11:36:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have they all hatched or did only 10 of the eggs hatch in the end? The fatc you've got amels means both of the parents are het amel, and all of your babies will be 100% het hypo anery lavender, so if you pair two of the babies back together in a few years time you'll get some really cool results
No idea re the pattern, maybe you've got a motley/stripe. Also no idea re the black eyes, it's extremely unusual for an amel to have any black at all, may be a silly question but are you sure they're not hypos? Amels have red/pink eyes, hypos have black pupils and brown/deep orange irises.



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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  11:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congrats on your hatchlings!

Personally I have no idea how people tell what morph a snake is as a hatchling, especially the paler ones which develop so much. Once you post some pictures I'm sure the pros can help identify them, but if they have dark eyes then I don't think they're amels. All the amels I've seen have red eyes.
If it turns out they are hypos, then it means the mum was het hypo. If they're something different to that then it means both parents were het for it, for example butter.
The normals will be carrying the hets the both of them had (so hypo if indeed both parents had it), and 50% chance of the separate hets from each of the parents.

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios
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manda88
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1002 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:10:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would certainly make more sense if they were hypos, as a visual hypo (which obviously is what your male hypo lavender is) and a het hypo (which is possibly what mum is) would produce half a clutch of visual hypo babies, whereas if both of the parents were het amel then only a quarter (theoretically) of the clutch would be visually amel. I hope that makes sense!!



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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:12:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The amels have red eyes but around their pupile there is a black line as in the picture this link:-

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23970

My snow from last year has it and i was questioning on here whether he was a paradox or not?

Mands 88 the amels definatly have red eyes as above its just a line round there pupile and im interested as to know what this is as now thats the second batch from the mum that have had this in their eyes...also the amel with the pattern difference is normal patterned (as far as i can remember) normaly 2/3 of the way down its just the last 3rd that is not as visable? so if i was to keep 2 back and breed them in 2 years what will i potentially get?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:18:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by manda88

It would certainly make more sense if they were hypos, as a visual hypo (which obviously is what your male hypo lavender is) and a het hypo (which is possibly what mum is) would produce half a clutch of visual hypo babies, whereas if both of the parents were het amel then only a quarter (theoretically) of the clutch would be visually amel. I hope that makes sense!!



I have to say the babies are a very bright red...i will post pics up later i first thought that they were indeed hypo (does this mean that the mum is also carrying the hypo gene?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:21:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also just looked on Ians viv and i think they are all hypo amel they are far to red to me normal amels...does this mean the mum is also carrying the hypo gene?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:23:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also also the carolinas look very dark comapred to the normal hatchling picture on ians viv?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:24:17  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i think its cos the hatchlings on there are older and yours still need their first shed :)

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  12:59:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
congrats on your hatchlings. scaly's right normal hatchlings do start off really dark



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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  13:59:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tasha89

Also just looked on Ians viv and i think they are all hypo amel they are far to red to me normal amels...does this mean the mum is also carrying the hypo gene?



Thanks for you help so far guys any update on the abpve?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  14:00:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tasha89

quote:
Originally posted by Tasha89

Also just looked on Ians viv and i think they are all hypo amel they are far to red to me normal amels...does this mean the mum is also carrying the hypo gene?



Thanks for you help so far guys any update on the abpve?



hypo would affect the white in the amels as opposed to the red, i think
any photos of babies?
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manda88
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1002 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  15:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amels vary a lot, I've got two lots of amels from two different clutches here that have hatched over the past week and one load are proper red and orange, the other load are like pale orange. I don't think there's much difference (if any) between amels and hypo amels, it'd be impossible to tell the difference with hatchlings.
And yep normals are really dark when they first hatch, the saddles are almost black but they'll get lighter with each shed.
If you were to pair two of your amel babies in a few years time, you'd get amels, hypo amels, opals, hypo opals, snopals, snows, coral snows, lavender coral snows, basically lots of orange and white stuff. Google the corn calc and have a play around with it to see what you'll get



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