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Cornsnakeluver127
Egg

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  22:36:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi, well i have decided to move my corn snake conan up to a vivarium i have never had one before so i have not a clue how to heat it i have read about heat mats and heat bulbs but what is your advice?? i have been using a heatmat for my terraniums ( not sure if thats what they are called ) but i cant put it into the vivarium for odd reasons that im not going to bore you with. so should i get another heat mat that can go into the vivarium or should i go for a heat lamp.... and i do know for the heat lamp i will need a protective case/thing around it so my snakey doesnt get burned. but how do i keep the heat under control aswell using one of them?? can anyone help??

thanks

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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  22:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i've got a heat mat in my viv set up with the stat prob and thermometer prob sat on top of the matt. the heat mat needs to take up 1/3 of the floor of the viv. you can fix the mat to the floor or use a heavy hide to keep it in place. you will need to fix the probs to the matt with either ahot glue gun or aquatic sealant so that snakie can't move the probs and effect the temps. hope this helps


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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 01/06/2012 :  23:20:26  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'm intrigued as to the odd reason for not putting a mat into the viv! :D

You have two options:
Heat mat inside the viv, using either a matstat or pulse stat
or....
Ceramic emitter in the viv, using a bulb guard, ceramic bulb holder, heat resistant cable, and either a dimming or pulse stat


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Blackcat
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/06/2012 :  08:17:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

i'm intrigued as to the odd reason for not putting a mat into the viv! :D



Me too



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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 02/06/2012 :  08:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackcat

quote:
Originally posted by eeji

i'm intrigued as to the odd reason for not putting a mat into the viv! :D



Me too



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mkmattyk
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Posted - 02/06/2012 :  09:05:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For plastic fauns i tend to prefer leaving to heatmat outside to give that air gap, and the thermometer/stat probe inside so the stat regualtes the temp inside not the outside temp, but for a wooden viv i put the mat inside
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Cornsnakeluver127
Egg

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/06/2012 :  22:24:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay so....I have a heat mat that I have got outside just now. But it is all attached to the thermostat and there is no way to take them apart. So I would have to slice the viv to make room for it to go in... Should I buy a knew one???? I know these sound like really stupid questions but I don't really know what to do :3
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a33272
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Posted - 02/06/2012 :  23:16:55  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ahhh I remember this mat/state combo from before haha. If it was me I'd simply cut the wire put the mat in then rejoin it together.



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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  12:47:50  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've never seen a mat permanently attached to a stat, what make is it?
Can it be unwired, feed the wire through a small hole then reconnected (you may have to unscrew the stat and open the casing)? Cutting the wire is very dodgey.


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Blackcat
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  12:57:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by a33272

Ahhh I remember this mat/state combo from before haha. If it was me I'd simply cut the wire put the mat in then rejoin it together.


Yes it was me who got one - made by habistat specifically for an exo terra set up sold by PAH for Geckos - the reason why not on their web site.
I did exactly that, cut the wire, threaded through hole in viv and rejoined wires together using a proper 2-core connector - as advised by my electrician friend.
Had thought about wiring a trailing socket on to it but was informed that the unit would not be earthed as only a 2-core wire going into thermostat unit.
Link to original post below:
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22381



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Edited by - Blackcat on 03/06/2012 13:04:49
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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  19:34:26  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if theres only 2 core cable then it will be double insulated which doesn't need an earth (should have a square symbol on it )


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Blackcat
Sub Adult

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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  21:28:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

if theres only 2 core cable then it will be double insulated which doesn't need an earth (should have a square symbol on it )


It was the cable from the mat which was 2 core, the cable from the stat to the mains was 3-core, was just worried if any unsuspecting person plugged an item in that was 3-core, this would then not be earthed - might be totally wrong, but it was just cheaper to buy a 2-core connector



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