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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  16:37:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you should quarantine a new snake for 3 months in a seperate room before putting near your other reps :) he may not be old enough as he is below the guideline age.

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  16:44:22  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I thought you said he looked older?

I know the person I got him off, another uncle *eye roll*, so I know how all his reptiles are kept as he has loads.
To date he has;
2 Red Tailed Boas.
3 female corns in a huuuge 5ft viv(all proven as he has bred all of them with his 2 males)
2 male corns in a 4ft viv.
3 Brazilian Rainbow Boas(in their own split room with the Red Tailed on the other side)
1 Paraguayan Rainbow Boa(in it's own 3ft viv)

Yeah there's no wonder he lives alone...


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  16:47:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think if i had all them my oh would leave and i would be alone lol

he does look older but if he is from your uncle and he says hes 2 1/2 then i dunno thats your call

regardless of where he came from, you still need to quarantine him :)

there is no way to age a corn, they are all different and all grow at the own rate x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  16:51:22  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
He did say 2 1/2 but I'm pretty sure I remember him hatching him in late 2008/early 2009 from his pair of butters...

I know I really should have quarantined him but A. I had no where to Quarantine and B. My mum would have killed me for keep the snake in any room but my own...


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  16:54:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
as a keeper you are responsible for them. quarantining them is your respnsabily. if do not have the room for another snake why are you breeding them?

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:03:02  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have the room for him but I couldn't quarantine him in any other room but my own. I have his feeding tub which is a 'RUB' that I could set up with a heat mat but he'd still be in my room on top of the other vivarium.

I'm breeding as my local Reptile Shop wants me to supply them with a batch either this year or next year and I want to breed, I have for a few years now. I already breed tropical fish, difficult ones at that, so I told my mum I wanted to do something different. She agreed I could as long as they were in my own room. I have the incubator and everything ready and have read and read about breeding corns, using this site's information. Even asked my uncle about breeding since he has done it himself.


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:07:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
do you have room for 30 + hatches? and them money the shop gives you will barley cover the cost of them. thas what i mean by responsibility, if you couldnt quarantine then you should have waited to get another snake.

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:15:22  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yes I have room for 30+ hatches, they will be in separate tubs in a 'RUB' on top of the other viv with a heat mat and stat on for them.

The shop has said they will give me £20 each for them as that's what they give all their suppliers for corn snakes, they will then sell them between £30 ad £45 dependent on morph.

If I had waited I would have been waiting 3+ years as that's when I'll be moving out, plus like I said although I should have quarantined I know how he was kept before I got him, I know there is and never was anything wrong with him.

Up until a week before I got him he was eating fine but he only stopped as my uncle had to move one of his females into the same room as him causing him to get the scent of a female and want to breed.

I don't want anything to turn into an argument as this is what it's coming across as to me...


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats fine, im not trying to start an argument.

you are more than likley to get all normals all het Anery, Amel, Hypo. which a breeder would normally sell on for 5 pounds each. and be prepared for non feeders, you may fine you will get stuck with 20 normals unable to home them, as shops often let people down.

also you should seperate your male after the female is gravid to reduce stress on her x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:30:12  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'll defo separate the male into his 'RUB' if this is OK? I am prepared for non feeders and have been taught for 2 years by my uncle how to force feed if necessary. Also I am prepared for if the shop lets me down as I will then sell on according to morph.

I'm not an argumentative person, in fact I tend to cower from conflict which is why I try not to get in to arguments...


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they will be all normals unless your two have any extra hets that you know of.

i understand that your uncle keeps snake, and his are perfeclty kept and healthy but he may not keep them how others do, if that makes sense. i know 3 people that keep their snake completl differently to me and they are all fine although in my eyes they keep them wrong. if that makes any sense at all.

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:38:26  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
He keeps them the same as me but in different sized vivs as he's the one I learnt off.


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:40:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats fair enough, i just mean how other people keep them may be different to you, meaning people on here x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  17:49:26  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I know what you meant :)


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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EmSquem
Yearling

United Kingdom
525 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2012 :  13:20:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow the last ones are so cute!!!



1.2.0 corns (Star, Eddie and Scarlet)
1.0.0 Sinaloan milk snake (Harry)
1.1.0 Black Labrador (Berry and Buddy)
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danny
Hatchling

United Kingdom
369 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2012 :  13:57:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

AcidicAngel looks like you have been on the recieving end lol it always seems to be someone for some reason. Beutifull snakes either way and they look very happy together :) (perfect couple) My corn is 8 months old, just over 2 foot and on small mice. Im hopeing she shall be on large by around 12 months. Chicks would proberly be possible at 2 and a half years by the rate she is currently growing.

Danny



1x staffy-Roxy
I x iguana-zilla
Several tessera corns

Edited by - danny on 07/06/2012 15:00:37
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2012 :  01:26:18  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by danny


AcidicAngel looks like you have been on the recieving end lol it always seems to be someone for some reason. Beutifull snakes either way and they look very happy together :) (perfect couple) My corn is 8 months old, just over 2 foot and on small mice. Im hopeing she shall be on large by around 12 months. Chicks would proberly be possible at 2 and a half years by the rate she is currently growing.

Danny






What do you mean by this?
Sorry I'm a little Dim...

Thanks, with the rate yours is growing she looks to be on her way to eating chicks at Cereus' age.


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2012 :  01:44:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AcidicAngel

2 1/2 years old, 5ft long.



:O
is it just me or is 5ft massive for 2 n a half?

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2012 :  07:26:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
one of my females is close to that and weighed nearly 650g at 2 1/2



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