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nickyff
Yearling

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Posted - 14/05/2012 :  21:53:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just out of interest, for any of the Knowledgeable Bods out there.... why aren't eggs just left with the mother snake? I've read in a couple of places (not on this site) that removing them can be tricky, as the snake often doesn't want to let go of them-
this implies that perhaps in the wild they would incubate the eggs themselves, like a bird?

so the question I spose, is whether in the wild, corns abandon freshly laid eggs, or look after them? and if it's the second, would they do so in captivity, if left to their own devices???

just curious

and you thought there was no such thing as a stupid question....



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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 14/05/2012 :  22:28:07  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
snakes cant regulate their body temps themself there for they personally cant incubate the eggs. as for leaving them i think thats y they would find a old rabbit hole and bury them so preditors cant get to them. also if left with the eggs i suppose theres a chance she could roll them drowning the embryos. most of all we can help stablise the factors needed for successful hatching


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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 14/05/2012 :  22:30:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The conditions for a captive corn are different to the conditions eggs need to be incubated.
In the wild the mother would lay them, probably stay with them a while but then go off to hunt and not return. They do not have maternal instincts I dont think.
A bird warms the eggs where as nature incubates snake eggs. And when snakes hatch they hunt for themselves where as birds need their mother to find them food.

Someone may be able to give a better answer than that but I think thats right

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nickyff
Yearling

507 Posts

Posted - 14/05/2012 :  23:14:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the point about temperature (thx marc) makes sense- obviously a snake isn't going to create the necessary warmth for the babies to hatch- so I guess in the wild they would look for somewhere warm to lay..and then just leave the eggs to it- (awww, poor babbies)
so then, WHY do some mummy snakes make it tricky to remove eggs?
its a curiosity, isnt it

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vetdebbie
Hatchling

United Kingdom
108 Posts

Posted - 14/05/2012 :  23:19:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not really difficult to remove th eggs, it is more a question that she is creamcrackered and doesn't want to move or be touched. The only female I worried about getting off her eggs is our hypo lavender stripe, but then again I worry about getting her water bowl out as she is a b***h!
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/05/2012 :  23:29:40  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
they still dont want preditors to eat the eggs so while they are around i guess they protect them. becauae obviously a preditor could have followed her to her laying spot and waited. look at crocs. they stay close to the nest and when they hatch mum will pick the hatchies up with her powerfull jaws very gently and carry them to the water and then their on the own. but they just protect them from getting eaten.


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1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 15/05/2012 :  21:12:07  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
burms incubate their own eggs ;)


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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 15/05/2012 :  21:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vetdebbie

It's not really difficult to remove th eggs, it is more a question that she is creamcrackered and doesn't want to move or be touched. The only female I worried about getting off her eggs is our hypo lavender stripe, but then again I worry about getting her water bowl out as she is a b***h!


lol, she sounds lovely!



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