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Emmerz
Hatchling

166 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:17:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey guys,
I have just moved my 6 corn snakes into a 5 tier vivarium I have a thermometer in every tier which is around 30c is it necessary to have a heat mat when the temp. is perfectly okay?

please help
love emmerz!xxx.

Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:20:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
27-28 is ideal, 30 is the max, i would nock the thermostat down a tad x
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont fully follow the question, do you have a heat mat in every tier or not? Also do you use thermostats to control the temp? If you dont use heat mats how are you achieving this 30oC?
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Emmerz
Hatchling

166 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:41:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Georgina,
I don't have a heat mat in any of the tiers.
no, I actually have no idea, I have a simple bulb and the temp is 28-30? My snakes are always 'tepid' when I get them out which i've heard they're meant to be...
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4494 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:44:49  Show Profile  Visit Mamma's Homepage  Reply with Quote
for corns you are better off using heat mats to the bulbs xx


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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:44:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they should feel cold to the touch as there max temp of 30 is lower than our body temp.

have you got a picture of your set up?

what type of bulbs do you use, do you have gaurds and are they on stats?
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Emmerz
Hatchling

166 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:49:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Georgina do you have a email address?
My thing to put pictures on here is messed up!xxx
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:50:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
send it to pollywager@hotmail.com

and i will post on here x
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1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Emmerz
Hatchling

166 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:51:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks<3
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:53:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd change to heat mats,running off a thermostat


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Emmerz
Hatchling

166 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Emailed Them To You Georgina!xx
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:33:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1 you need a guard on the lamp
2 it is massivly too hot if that dial thermomter reads 30, you need to turn all heat off asap
3 in a small viv like that you will not achieve a gradient in the heat and mats will be a better option
4 having the temp that high and a water bowl there its gonna make the humidity rocket.
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:38:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
would also be better to use digital thermometers with probes (more accurate)


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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:39:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh poo, i forgot to put that lol!

5 you need to have a stat on what ever heat source
6 onky use digital thermomters, 2 if you can.
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:42:19  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Agreed with Georgina, you need to get a mat and a stat and a digital thermometer for each viv you have and bin the lamp completely. If you want light in the viv get some LED lights (ikea have a good selection) that give off minimal heat and will not effect the temps on your viv. And a hide in the cool end required as well.
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:43:07  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Damn it to slow again........
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
7 as donnie said, a hide in each end x

also what are the dimensions of the vivs and how big are your snakes x
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts
Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:50:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Georgina

oh poo, i forgot to put that lol!

lol


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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts
Posted - 02/05/2012 :  13:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The tier system will also mean the snakes at the top will be far hotter than the bottom ones, If the air temperature is 30oC which it will be around that if thats what the dial thermometer says then its a corn snake oven in there. Air temp should be around 20oC (room temperature), with a hot side of 28oC but no more than 30oC (as it is several areas under the bulb in that viv will be over 30oC). The unguarded bulb is the most worrying thing though, corns like to climb and explore and if it climbs up on that bulb it will be severely burnt costing you hundreds of pounds to sort out.

As it has been said for the safety of your snakes that until you have the temperatures in check it is advisable to switch off the heat sources, they will be fine at room temperature as long as you dont feed them while you sort out the issues.
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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