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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:00:04
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as a short term yeah x |
1.0 western hognose (hero) 1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle) 0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong) 0.0.3 miomantis paykullii 0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad) 0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop) 1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper) 2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Ninja Girl
Egg
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:03:47
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ok, thanks for the help and also is longer tip of the tail shorter male and shorter tip of the tail longer female or the other way round? also they havent been restless at all x |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:07:27
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neither, there is no way to tell unless you have them probed. x and thats not 100 percent x |
1.0 western hognose (hero) 1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle) 0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong) 0.0.3 miomantis paykullii 0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad) 0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop) 1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper) 2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Ninja Girl
Egg
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:07:32
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Sorry! Its just everyone has been talking about it and I have just got myself so worried x |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:16:34
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reptile shops can normally probe or a vet but they may charge. i have never seen a gravid female, how old are they? |
1.0 western hognose (hero) 1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle) 0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong) 0.0.3 miomantis paykullii 0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad) 0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop) 1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper) 2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Ninja Girl
Egg
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:20:13
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8 months old, can snakes get spayed?? x |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:22:22
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yup, they can, not sure what its like but some one recently on here had their snake spayed (kdlang i think) |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:23:54
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tha was because she was egg bound and its far from the answer. snakes are not social animals and are best kept seperatly anyway |
1.0 western hognose (hero) 1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle) 0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong) 0.0.3 miomantis paykullii 0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad) 0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop) 1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper) 2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:25:10
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and im sure kdlang will not recomend it. x |
1.0 western hognose (hero) 1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle) 0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong) 0.0.3 miomantis paykullii 0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad) 0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop) 1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper) 2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Ninja Girl
Egg
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:33:46
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Fair enough well, my mind is at ease now thanks everyone! |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:35:36
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You are best just keeping them separated, especially as they are so young and you are not sure of the sex of both of them. You will be OK either using a RUB (cheaper option) or one of the fauns in this post http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9878
Either of these should last you a while and you can save up in the meantime for two 4' vivs that you can stack for when they are older and will last them a lifetime. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:37:01
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adults are more than ok in 3ft vivs which isnt too bad, most of the vivs you can stack aswell x |
1.0 western hognose (hero) 1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle) 0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong) 0.0.3 miomantis paykullii 0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad) 0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop) 1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper) 2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Ninja Girl
Egg
United Kingdom
81 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 21:38:05
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ok, thanks :) |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 15/04/2012 : 22:45:18
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Ok this is going to sound really harsh but if you cannot afford two set-ups then you cannot afford 2 opposite sex snakes.
Right now that is out the way I will say that it is possible to afford 2 set-ups for not much more money than the one. If you have the snakes in 1 wooden viv then it is possible to use a wooden partition to seperate the snakes. If you put your heatmat in the middle of the viv and put the partition on top of that then each snake would have half the heatmat each. It also means that you will only need 1 thermostat. I would still invest in 2 thermometers though just to be on the safe side. Hides etc can be made from cardboard boxes, tubes etc. Then you just need a waterbowl each. They will need a 3ft viv each when they are older but you could set-up a savings jar for that and just put away a couple of quid a week.
At the moment your snakes are still quite young so it is unlikely that they will breed. However, it is possible as snakes all mature at different rates. If your female becomes gravid to soon then she could suffer serious consequences, including possible death. Even if she lays successfully, breeding too young can stunt the growth of the female and cause future health problems. There are other complications to cohabitting snakes and I do advise you to read the sticky on cohabitting. It is long but will help you to make an informed decision on future plans.
Scaly is right, I have just had one of my females spayed. Believe me, it is not something I would recommend as a form of contraception and it is still something that I believe is fairly new. My girl was only spayed because she had a history of laying infertile clutches and had become eggbound. Since it was more than likely that she would lay again in future years and it would most likely eventually kill her, we took the decision to have her spayed at the same time of her having her retained eggs removed. I am so lucky in that so far she is recovering well but it could have been a completely different story. It has cost me around £300 in vets bills so far this year, and it cost me about £100 last year when she struggled to lay. I don't begrudge paying it as to me she is worth so much more but if you are short of money then you really don't want to take the risk of having to pay for expensive vet treatment for something that could have been avoided.
Sorry, I have probably gone on a bit but it is something I feel strongly about. I have never felt so worried and helpless than I did while connie was struggling to lay her eggs and it really makes me angry when people willingly put their snakes at risk. |
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ashby_steve
Hatchling
United Kingdom
258 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2012 : 00:54:56
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will be fine for now, as long as you're aware it's a short term thing. My male goes in his when my female is ready to lay, stresses her out with his 'needs' otherwise You know - boys and their raging hormones lol |
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tordyjo
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2036 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2012 : 08:32:33
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I see you are only 13, it might be worth letting your parents read through the posts so they are up on the knowledge and know how too, if they understand the possible consequences of cohabiting opposite sexes i'm sure they'll help you to get your set up right |
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2012 : 08:41:20
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Go to a rep shop, have them probed and if it turns out they're same sex then it's possible for them to cohabit. You don't know for definite yet do you? |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2012 : 09:41:35
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I now won't trust the outcome of popping or probing 100% until that animal is proven through breeding, so even if they were sexed the same I still wouldn't recommend keeling them together. |
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ashby_steve
Hatchling
United Kingdom
258 Posts |
Posted - 16/04/2012 : 10:29:36
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quote: Originally posted by SexyBear77
I now won't trust the outcome of popping or probing 100% until that animal is proven through breeding, so even if they were sexed the same I still wouldn't recommend keeling them together.
i dunno... i had mine checked by popping as babys and it seemed pretty clear to me lol |
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