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marc_sg
Sub Adult

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Posted - 09/04/2012 :  20:43:14  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote

this is inregards to a previous post

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22116

i have taken some new pictures of my shellys belly so you can see better if shes a fire. please enjoy.




hope this helps with the possibilty of being diffused or not.


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY

gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 09/04/2012 :  21:10:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks like very little diffusion to the sides if any, could be het diffused. Would be my best guess


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marc_sg
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Posted - 09/04/2012 :  21:17:58  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
ive just bought a male bloodred is it worth me putting him with her next year u think. if i did what could i get as a out come


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 09/04/2012 :  21:30:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
would be interesting to find out lol, if this one is het diffused you should get normals and diffused out. if shes fire you get all diffused out


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marc_sg
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Posted - 09/04/2012 :  21:32:26  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
wow ok. oh y have i now gotta wait a year lol. typical.... lol


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
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Posted - 09/04/2012 :  22:33:08  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i just looked on iansviv and the fire corns on there have less white around the saddles compared to my shelly


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 10/04/2012 :  08:58:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've only ever seen fires with little to no white around their saddles, usually the latter.

Not sure if this is the norm though or if they were just very good examples? Morphs have so much variation in them!!

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mkmattyk
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Posted - 10/04/2012 :  11:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know this may sound far fetched but could it be a hybrid (Creamsicle)???
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marc_sg
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Posted - 11/04/2012 :  15:20:11  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
the person i bought her off he has the mum and dad. his brother has the nan and grandad and their all the same colour as her some are a bit darker. so i wudnt think shes a hybrid


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

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mkmattyk
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Posted - 11/04/2012 :  20:22:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But hybrids are dominant or co-dominant if memory serves me right so all that family line will look the same if they are hybrids and also your babies will look that as well, thats if she is a hybrid

Edited by - mkmattyk on 11/04/2012 20:27:51
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eeji
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Posted - 11/04/2012 :  22:32:19  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would say not diffused and not het diffused from those pics, and the colours are too intense for creamsicle. You can try her with a diffused for your own curiosity (because nothing is 100% until proven!) and even if you do get normals out they will all be het amel diffused and make for the start of a fire based project :)


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marc_sg
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Posted - 11/04/2012 :  22:37:29  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

I would say not diffused and not het diffused from those pics, and the colours are too intense for creamsicle. You can try her with a diffused for your own curiosity (because nothing is 100% until proven!) and even if you do get normals out they will all be het amel diffused and make for the start of a fire based project :)



ok i will give them a go. because my my bloodred is het hypo and cinder. so i may even get hypo amel cinders out (if thats right) if i keep the babiea back and put back across each other


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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mkmattyk
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Posted - 11/04/2012 :  23:18:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah maybe your right eeji, but have alook at this
http://www.cornutopia.com/Corn%20Utopia%20on%20the%20Web/Photo%20&%20Image%20Stockpile%20-%20CornUtopia/ALB.%20OKEETEE%20-%20CAPTION.jpg

Might be one of these
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marc_sg
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Posted - 11/04/2012 :  23:45:48  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
see her orange is alot darker then that. and she hasnt got belly checkers like other okettes that ive seen. her belly patern is is spickles where as my male sid gas got perfect rectangled belly checkers but his checjers are a pale yellow nearly white.also that discription says thick white borders are the red saddle. shelly has got thin white surroundings


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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mkmattyk
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  01:16:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well im out of ideas see ya peeps
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marc_sg
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  18:12:24  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mkmattyk

Well im out of ideas see ya peeps




lol thanks any way.everyones ideas are appreciated. i think the only option im left with is to breed her either with one of her off spring or with my bloodred.


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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mkmattyk
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  19:37:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats the best idea marc sorry i could be anymore help
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marc_sg
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Posted - 12/04/2012 :  19:50:58  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
im just glad everyone took the time to have a guess.


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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McLaren90
Snake Mite

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Posted - 17/04/2012 :  10:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mine is the same, white belly, almost identical I've been told he might be a diffused amel?

Would be interesting to breed William and Shelly together lol!





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343guiltyspark
Hatchling

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Posted - 20/04/2012 :  17:11:40  Show Profile  Visit 343guiltyspark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
She's a really nice color.


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