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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/03/2012 :  23:53:16  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
which one is it? and why has it been changed?
i no it was in debate for a while but just want to understand why?



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2012 :  00:31:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Scientists/nerd/zoologists are constantly getting things wrong/changing things/putting things right when really to pretty much everyone a corn snake is just a corn snake.

I think Elaphe is still the commonly accepted version.

The official and full version is long winded have a look into binomial/trinomical nomenclature (I think thats it anyway) and I'm sure wiki etc will have a decent explanation of it.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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Edited by - lotabob on 04/03/2012 00:35:49
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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/03/2012 :  11:41:22  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's pantherophis, or pretty much every site I've been on has it listed as that...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_snake



Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/03/2012 :  19:25:51  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
its split so the correct answer depends on who you ask. If a boffin writes a paper proposing a change of name then it has to be peer reviewed which is where the confusion arises because some will accept the change and others won't.

Pantherophis seems to be the 'accepted' name, whether it is 'correct' or not I don't know.

It was even proposed a few years back that corns (and other N. American ratsnakes of Elaphe/Pantherophis) should be reclassified as Pituophis species putting them in the same species group as pine, gopher, and bull snakes.



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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/03/2012 :  20:09:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I propose they be reclassified as cornisnakeus biteykehhlyrus

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2012 :  20:56:13  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
lol!



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/03/2012 :  22:02:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

I propose they be reclassified as cornisnakeus biteykehhlyrus



wrong way kehhlyrusbiteus cornisnakaus ;)


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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2012 :  23:08:24  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
heres an interesting link about how much its changed over the years, with different sub species jumping in and out all over the place: http://www.ratsnakezone.com/ratsnake-information/74-cornsnake-subspecies-comparison-and-taxonomy.html :)


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