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jaseargonaut12
Egg
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24/12/2011 : 06:37:41
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Having a argument with our lass over this, as i have been given a 3ft wooden viv from one of the woman at work.
now obviously i want to put the heat mat in the viv with the snakes when i set it all up (and put a RCD on it, so i dont have a fried snake)
our lass is arguing that she doesnt like the idea of the heatmat actually being in with the snake (currently in a 2ft fish tank), so wants to go with the Basking light option,
so my question is which one is better. |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 07:34:59
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| i would say heat mat but that is all i use, but if i had to i would only use one NOT both |
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 08:03:31
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Originally posted by mkmattyk
i would say heat mat but that is all i use, but if i had to i would only use one NOT both
Why NOT both, I do. Heat lamp for day temps and mat for nights (using the correct stats) offering a more natural environment. I appreciate it's not the most common setup but cannot understand why you say NOT both. Why an rcd? A pulse stat would suffice. |
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jaseargonaut12
Egg
United Kingdom
66 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 08:10:39
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| a RCD is just a device that can be plugged in before say a heatmat other electrical device (mostly used with Electric Lawnmovers or Pressure Washers) that cuts the power if there is any fault on the device. |
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 08:29:07
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Originally posted by jaseargonaut12
a RCD is just a device that can be plugged in before say a heatmat other electrical device (mostly used with Electric Lawnmovers or Pressure Washers) that cuts the power if there is any fault on the device.
With all due respect I know what an RCD is but cannot understand why you feel the need to use one with a very low wattage heat mat! |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 09:23:41
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| mick sorry what a meant was at the same time |
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 10:17:08
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Originally posted by mkmattyk
mick sorry what a meant was at the same time
Technicly Matthew they are on at the same time. The heat lamp dimming stat is simply set higher than the mat pulse stat thus the mat stat kicks in and switches off, when the heat lamp timer switches off and the temp drops the mat stat kicks in and switches on and starts to heat.
I think Jase has got the wrong idea regarding RCD's, if there is nothing wrong with the current to or from the device the rcd will not trip, just because a mat starts to get too hot there is probably nothing wrong with the power to it, you just need a mat stat that will cut power when the desired temp is reached, an rcd will not do this.
You do as you please but be warned if you rely on an rcd you have no control over the mat and if a problem arises your snake will be fried long before the rcd is ever tripped. |
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Edited by - Okeetee Mick on 24/12/2011 10:33:29 |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 10:34:27
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As above, an rcd is a waste of time, it prevents electrocution, not over heating. What you want is a thermostat.
As to which is better, they both do the same job really, just in different ways to suit different animals requirements, personally i think a Mat is better for a corn, and it is cheaper to run, you can use a mat stat which is cheaper than a dimmer you would need for a bulb. |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 14:37:18
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| I started with a lamp setup, but it needed switching off at night and started to drop too cold at night so I added a mat, the mat was set to 25-26oC and the bulb was set to 28oC with a timer to knock it off at night. It worked well but it was overcomplicating the heating of just 1 animal. I have now switched to ceramic heat bulbs, on 24/7, no light, slight raise in the ambient but just a very efficient and simple heating system. Its not as simple as a heat mat but I was never very happy with using a contact heater on my animal just incase something went wrong. |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 15:15:51
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I personally prefer heat mats over bulbs. I have my snakes in my bed room so bright red lights are annoying to sleep with. Plus mats are cheaper.
Bulbs can also go wrong at times, exploding but that's so very rare. |
   
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 17:36:38
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
I personally prefer heat mats over bulbs. I have my snakes in my bed room so bright red lights are annoying to sleep with. Plus mats are cheaper.
Bulbs can also go wrong at times, exploding but that's so very rare.
That's the point of my original post, its personal choice, you can use either or both. |
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jaseargonaut12
Egg
United Kingdom
66 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 18:28:42
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| I presume that if you have a basking light the snake will come out more then curling up in a hide to warm up, as it will be warmer outside then in there hide |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 18:37:34
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Originally posted by Okeetee Mick
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
I personally prefer heat mats over bulbs. I have my snakes in my bed room so bright red lights are annoying to sleep with. Plus mats are cheaper.
Bulbs can also go wrong at times, exploding but that's so very rare.
That's the point of my original post, its personal choice, you can use either or both.
So why quite me when others also expressed their opinions :P |
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Spreebok
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1135 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 22:13:21
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Eeji, this is really OT, but why do you have a picture of my friend's dog Maya in the petshop where she works as your signature picture? xD
Or is my internet blowing up, which wouldn't surprise me lol!
Edit: If I click it, it takes me to iansviv, so I think it may just be a bug with my internet :> |
Edited by - Spreebok on 24/12/2011 22:15:29 |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 25/12/2011 : 01:28:34
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| just a hwads up from a electrician. a rcd detects a fault between neutral and earth. and as heat mats dont have a earth because the ars double insulated the rcd wont trip if a fault arises any way.. |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/12/2011 : 16:23:48
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Originally posted by Spreebok
Eeji, this is really OT, but why do you have a picture of my friend's dog Maya in the petshop where she works as your signature picture? xD
Or is my internet blowing up, which wouldn't surprise me lol!
Edit: If I click it, it takes me to iansviv, so I think it may just be a bug with my internet :>
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